i need help identifying a .22 of mine

[DustinMeek]

fluss-stahl krupp-essen is ritten on the barrel, and on the reciever is ritten exactally like this MODELL317J. with a capital S inside of a triangle and the triangle inside of a circle. on the lever has the number 113 on it also the barrel has ritten kal .22 long rifle 36927. also on the other side of the barrel is some more writing it has some writing in different language with 5.4mm in the middle of the writing. this gun has adjustable sights ranging from 25 to 200 in 25 i guess yard incraments. i need to find a stock for this guni dont have original one so it doesnt work properly can anyone help?

 

[rcmodel]

fluss-stahl = Fluid Steel (as opposed to Damascus)
krupp-essen = Krupp made the barrel steel in the city of Essen Germany..

I think the action / completed rifle might have been made by Simson Werke.

Finding an orginial stock will be an impossible task.
A stock maker could make one, but it would no doubt cost far more then the rifle is worth.

rc

 

[JohnBT]

There were a variety of different makers of German "Deutsches Sportmodell" training rifles. I googled 317J and found this one first.

www.naturabuy.fr/Ancienne-carabine-allemande-22lr-item-488061.html

"est marqué " SIMONWERKE" Suhl modell 317 J . Krupp"

 

[JohnBT]

www.rifleman.org.uk/Mauser_training_rifle.htm

Here's a brief history of the German training rifles. They were really sporting rifles because Germany was not allowed to produce scads of military rifles after losing WWI. The one pictured was made by GECO.

 

[DustinMeek]

thank you. i figured a stock would be hard to find due to the age and where is was from just figured if the gun was worth anything it would be worth trying to find an original stock or a replica. i have a stock on it now that i cut down to fit , but now you cant eject the shell uunless you hold your finger up inside the stock to hold a lever to allow the slid to work properly

 

[DustinMeek]

also if anyone has one of these, i would like to find out what it might be worth, if gun was complete i cant seem to get any answers, other than a gun dealer from in town said he would only give me 30 bucks for it. i was kinda upset due to the fact i wasnt trying to sale it i was just curious of the value. He never would give me a straight answer or even try to help me to find a stock for it

 

[Coyote3855]

Without the original stock, it has no value to a collector. Given your description of how it functions, it would not be worth much for someone wanting a plinking or small game rifle. So it's value is whatever you place on it. The dealer who said $30 bucks was probably correct.

 

[DustinMeek]

ok thanks for the info thats kinda what i thought i may try to make one work when i get the time. since it doesnt sound like i need to persue finding an original