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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by eazyrider, Oct 24, 2010.

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  1. eazyrider

    eazyrider Member

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    I am just getting into shooting in the civilian world and I must say it is way more expensive than in the Corps. I want to start reloading and I never have. I have been researching and I did read a lot on this site but I still have questions.

    1. I need a good starter kit with everything I need. You guys would know so please recommend one. All the sites say "starter kit" but do they mean all the way, you need nothing else or do you just get most of what you need?

    2. How do you get all your brass back? I mean if you fire fifty rounds at the range they go all over the place including out past the line. Plus there are rounds all over. So if you fire fifty you are not going to get fifty back. Do you just buy cases, is this still cheaper?

    3. I need a site recommendation where I can get what I need all in one place.

    4. Is the anyway to screw up, such as actually spending more money than it would have cost to just buy rounds in the box?
     
  2. Rule3

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    Go to the top of this reloading section and read over the stickies which should give you a good idea of what equipment is involved. Start with on caliber better yet a revolver caliber and you will not need to chase brass. Most brass from semi autos will fly back and not over the "line" use a broom or rake and pick it up. Some folks buy new bras but cheaper is to buy once fired brass.
     
  3. Sky

    Sky Member

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    Check out Aimsurplus for good ammo prices. Reloading works for some and they do save money over time.
     
  4. medalguy

    medalguy Member

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    Pick up a copy of ABC's of Reloading (Amazon.com is a good source) and read all about reloading before you start buying equipment. Everything is explained in great detail there and it's an invaluable reference book for every reloader. You also need to pick up SEVERAL relaoding manuals-- Speer, Hornady, Lyman, etc. publish these. Read them and STUDY them.
     
  5. coloradokevin

    coloradokevin Member

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    I've found that most "starter" (or other) kits contain most of what you need, but not all of it. Beyond the dies for each caliber you load, there are always little things you'll find you want (a kinetic hammer for mistakes, a tumbler for brass cleaning, or whatever else).

    If you haven't done so, check out your local library. My library system carried a few books on reloading, and I read them all before I started buying my own equipment.
     
  6. General Lee

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    Here is a list I made for myself:

    So... Here is a list of what I started with Total for the necessary components is about $300. Prices are all from www.midwayusa.com If you google midwayusa coupon codes you will almost always find discounts that will work. Products are mostly Lee because I chose to go with that brand because it is the most reasonably priced and has mostly good reviews.

    Brass Collection problem: I shoot prone and use a blanket to lay on and it catches all my brass, but some weapons you can use things like this to catch brass: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=855937

    #1 Reloading Book 2 books that I have are : http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=484416 and http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=462564

    Tumbler I chose works well for me: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=286322

    Media for the tumbler: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=730107

    Press I chose VERY strong press: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=317831

    Die Set I recommend the Pacesetter because it includes the FCD Again this is .223 for example: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=434975

    Quick change kit, This basically turns your single stage press into a quick change station MUST HAVE!!: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=858110

    Powder Scale: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=175512

    Chamfer and Deburring Tool: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=389104

    Primer Pocket Cleaner: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=467111

    Hand Priming Tool: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=807875

    Universal Shell Holders for the Prime tool: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=566058

    Case trimmer with Lock Stud for Drill highly Recommended: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=476992

    Case Trimmer with ball grip: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=136199

    Case Length Gauge you need to put in trimmer this one is 223: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=107333

    Case Lube: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=204960

    Powder Funnel: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=974498

    Caliper: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=604242

    All you need to add to this list to get going is Primers, Bullets, Brass used or unused, and powder!


    Some Recommended Extras:

    Example of Cases I bought for reloaded Ammo: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=616369

    Case Lables: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=336978

    Bullet Puller incase you screw up you will need to buy the specific sized attachment for the bullet you choose: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=680804

    Universal Shell Holders for Press: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=786187

    Brass polish to put in media makes it a little prettier not needed for functionality though: http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=472108
     
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  7. Jesse Heywood

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    If you live near a store where primers and powder are sold I find it best to buy them locally. Hazmat fees aren't cheap. If you need to order primers & powder go to www.powdervalleyinc.com. They are good, honest folks. And they will ship primers and powder together. Most places won't do that.

    Another good place for buying gear is at gun shows.
     
  8. Walkalong

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    You can get into reloading for one caliber for $100 to $150 easy enough. Yep, you will lose some brass, but if it is 9MM, .40, or .45, you will find enough once fired by non reloaders to never have to buy brass. Even .38 Spl, .223, .308, & .30-06 is found at the range reasonably often. Buy once fired brass instead of new. Shoot lead instead of jacketed. Start casting your own once you get settled in. You will save money, but will end up shooting more as well.
     
  9. hancjamk

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    When I'm at the range I pick up what I can. I usally end up walking away with more brass than I came with and sort it out later. I'm pretty much SOL on the shells past the line... I sort by premium brass Rem. Fed. and Win. The mixed brass of odd-ball brands I load and use as my throw away brass.
     
  10. MrOldLude

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    For brass, I hang out with my friends. They both shoot 9mm, so I take their once-fired.
     
  11. rfwobbly

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    Mr Rider -
    Welcome to THR and welcome to reloading.

    1) No one can recommend a reloading outfit for the simple reason that...
    a) You didn't tell us if you were going to shoot pistol, shotgun or rifle, and..
    b) Choice of presses depends on the features you want. In that respect it's a lot like buying a car. Do you really want me to pick out your car? You'll simply have to do some research, brother. A much better plan is that we explain the FEATURES and then you pick the press in your price range with all the features you need.

    2) You never get all your brass back. Some gets lost, some goes in front of the line, some gets "split out", some just plain disappears between the range and home.

    3) Graf & Sons, Midway USA, Mid South Shooters, Klempfs, there are at least 50 places.

    4) As with anything else, there are 100 ways to screw up. You can go cheap and discover that features are missing you really need. You can go expensive and discover that you hate reloading. You can go "progressive" and discover you simply can't digest all the actions taking place. You can find the perfect setup and then blow yourself up. :eek: There are 100 ways to screw up.

    I generally advise beginners to ask around locally for used equipment. You'll find someone that's aging out of the hobby who'll sell you their entire setup for a good price. That way you get tools, press, books, dies, supplies, all at once. You'll also have a mentor you can ask questions to, or who can show you how it's done. That way you'll have local help, and if you decide that reloading is not for you, then you can easily get all your money back.


    Hope this helps! ;)
     
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  12. qajaq59

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    Read the stickies and every book you can find before you spend any money for equipment. They sell catchers that will catch most of your shells at the range. And a lot of guys just make them out of PVC pipe and a fish net.

    You also have a PM.
     
  13. 10mmreloader

    10mmreloader Member

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    hey,
    You may want to look up the site
    www.startreloading.com
    got some good pointers there on where I can find all the info i need on the web.
    have fun and be safe!
     
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