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will an arrow go 300 yards?
damien
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I also second the balloon idea. I was just going to add that and I see that two others have already suggested that idea.
Blackfork
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Commercial fireworks?
Can't contact a company that shoots those big exploding fireworks to do this? One mortar tube upwind and something that makes a huge firework blossom.....
Flares sound fun. I'd make sure I had a box though. And do it at night.
Can't contact a company that shoots those big exploding fireworks to do this? One mortar tube upwind and something that makes a huge firework blossom.....
Flares sound fun. I'd make sure I had a box though. And do it at night.
Claude Clay
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Scotty, I need the phasers NOW
wes
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1000' of ignition wire attatched to model rocket engine. RC airplane with payload drop system. Drop model rocket engine into stack. Land the RC airplane. Ignite the Rocket engine.
For instance you can stand at the 12 o'clock postion while an observer stands at the 3 o'clock position. The observer watches for the right time to drop the payload. If you don't hit it the first time you just pull the engine back reload and try again.
For instance you can stand at the 12 o'clock postion while an observer stands at the 3 o'clock position. The observer watches for the right time to drop the payload. If you don't hit it the first time you just pull the engine back reload and try again.
As much fun as .50 BMG incidiary rounds and model RC helicopters dropping parachute flares are to talk about, isn't the best solution an RC car with a good long range that has a piezo electric type sparker device mounted on an arm long enough to keep the car from being immolated? Seems like you could do this for under $500.00 and it would be infinitely reusable.
Why not have an RC plane tow the flare behind it on a long wire? (Think of the airplanes that tow banners at sporting events) The RC plane could make multiple passes over the stack if the 1st attempt doesn't light it off. If the wire is long enough, the RC plane is reusable.
Jorg Nysgerrig
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What kind of RC car can you attach an arm to that will reach 150' up?
Problem with towing a flare is towing a flare-how ya gonna hold it? Get half dozen cheap RC planes. Go over to the Res. and buy a handful[[ of M 100'S. Wire them to explode when you press a switch. Dangle them by the ignition wire a few feet below the RC plane. Get two observes to help you trianglulate the planes position over the stack. Use two or three M100's per plane on different length wires, so you can have repeat tries.
MrPeter
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I'd like to know the answer to that one...
What about the commercial fireworks? Those aren't terribly difficult to get, and the ones I had this 4th went up at least 100 feet, and cost me $5 for 7 mortars. If you had a larget bank account I'm sure you could get something more serious.
Lots of PM's
The parachute flare seems like a good idea. But the wind would be heck. Also on the 6:00 news "Company X sets marshland on fire"
Gotta think PC on this one. Otherwise a tracer from my 308 would have accomplished this.
I am not a bow hunter, what is the maximum effective range of a arrow?
A pneumatic spud gun launching tennis balls is on the plate as well. They are calculating if the terminal velocity of a tennis ball would reach out there.
For those asking. You cannot get close to this due to safety. Not even in an alumanized suit. For the gas thet is heavier than air, there is a chance of oxygen displacement. You would have to haul 900' of breathing air hose while wearing more PPE than an astronaut on the moon. Company X wont sign off on it.
For those asking, the Company pays approx $80,000 for a chopper to do a fly over. Maybe I can get with the member her who works for PHI
The parachute flare seems like a good idea. But the wind would be heck. Also on the 6:00 news "Company X sets marshland on fire"
Gotta think PC on this one. Otherwise a tracer from my 308 would have accomplished this.
I am not a bow hunter, what is the maximum effective range of a arrow?
A pneumatic spud gun launching tennis balls is on the plate as well. They are calculating if the terminal velocity of a tennis ball would reach out there.
For those asking. You cannot get close to this due to safety. Not even in an alumanized suit. For the gas thet is heavier than air, there is a chance of oxygen displacement. You would have to haul 900' of breathing air hose while wearing more PPE than an astronaut on the moon. Company X wont sign off on it.
For those asking, the Company pays approx $80,000 for a chopper to do a fly over. Maybe I can get with the member her who works for PHI
As far as work asking me to blow something up, that is the exact opposite of what I am usually told. I am a hot tap technician, and people are generally nervous when a hot tap is going on.
Whoever mentioned BP in Texas city. The operations in the plant were responsible for disabling a level alarm, which in turn caused the vessel to pop its prv. The contractor in the truck(ignition source) was approved to be in that area. Working in these plants there is one rule, It is always the contractors fault.
Whoever mentioned BP in Texas city. The operations in the plant were responsible for disabling a level alarm, which in turn caused the vessel to pop its prv. The contractor in the truck(ignition source) was approved to be in that area. Working in these plants there is one rule, It is always the contractors fault.
simmonsguns
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Yes an arrow will go that far.
We used to shoot 185 yards at a sheet for a long distance fun shoot.
Many of the bows the guys used would have enough power to go easily twice that far.
Also went on an archery pheasant hunt a couple of years ago. I was the only one using flue-flue arrows which slow the speed and are good for short range bird hunting.
The other dozen guys were all using modern compounds with carbon or aluminum arrows. Their arrows were found on neighboring property at least 400-500 yards away.
Of course you'll have to figure in the weight of whatever it is you might plan on launching into the gas and how it will affect the aerodynamics of the arrow.
A trial run would be in order to make sure the arrow would fly straight and be able to get to where it needs to go.
If a small amount of flame is needed to get the gas going any lightweight carbon arrow shot of a bow with a draw weight of 60-70 pounds should do the trick.
If a small carbon arrow won't work a heavier weight carbon or aluminum with larger vanes or feathers would help stabilize the flight better.
A broadhead or a judo point would probably work good for using as something to attach the burning material to.
Maybe some sort of flaming gel or liquid would work. It wouldn't affect the flight as much as something wrapped around or attached to the arrow.
A field point or broadhead could be used with a dunk in the stuff, lit, then launched.
The wind might be a factor in blowing it out.
Might be able to do an old Dukes of Hazzard deal also with some sort of firework on the end with a cannon fuse that would keep the wind from blowing it out.
A man lit the Olympic torch with an arrow a few years ago so surely something out there should work.
Good luck
We used to shoot 185 yards at a sheet for a long distance fun shoot.
Many of the bows the guys used would have enough power to go easily twice that far.
Also went on an archery pheasant hunt a couple of years ago. I was the only one using flue-flue arrows which slow the speed and are good for short range bird hunting.
The other dozen guys were all using modern compounds with carbon or aluminum arrows. Their arrows were found on neighboring property at least 400-500 yards away.
Of course you'll have to figure in the weight of whatever it is you might plan on launching into the gas and how it will affect the aerodynamics of the arrow.
A trial run would be in order to make sure the arrow would fly straight and be able to get to where it needs to go.
If a small amount of flame is needed to get the gas going any lightweight carbon arrow shot of a bow with a draw weight of 60-70 pounds should do the trick.
If a small carbon arrow won't work a heavier weight carbon or aluminum with larger vanes or feathers would help stabilize the flight better.
A broadhead or a judo point would probably work good for using as something to attach the burning material to.
Maybe some sort of flaming gel or liquid would work. It wouldn't affect the flight as much as something wrapped around or attached to the arrow.
A field point or broadhead could be used with a dunk in the stuff, lit, then launched.
The wind might be a factor in blowing it out.
Might be able to do an old Dukes of Hazzard deal also with some sort of firework on the end with a cannon fuse that would keep the wind from blowing it out.
A man lit the Olympic torch with an arrow a few years ago so surely something out there should work.
Good luck
Geronimo45
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Rifle grenade method? I hear of SKS owners shooting golf balls a hundred yards or more. Don't know what to use as a projectile, though. A blank round and a projectile of some sort might do the job. I'm guessing you might need a cup grenade launcher.
alucard0822
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if the stuff is that flammible, would a sparkler bound to the side of a carbon arrow work?, plenty of ignition source, light, and carbon won't melt like aluminum.
Or those ancient chinese arrow missle things, bottle rockets and the like comes to mind, range may be a problem with all but the largest tiujana bottle rockets. To achieve the proper trajectory, the arrow/rocket/whatever would probably have to go 1500 feet at a 40 dergee launch angle. Probably a streach for the flaming spudzooka.
We used to use a pest control round called "Bird Fright" to keep flocks of birds out of the landing pattern of aircraft. It was fired from any standard "full open" 12 gauge SG and it produced a delayed pyrotechnic air burst. It might not be the best thing for this particular application but I can guarantee that you'll have lots of fun experimenting...
Kaeto
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The RC Helicopter would not work unless you were very skilled at flying one. They are VERY hard to fly.
In just learning how to get it to fly straight and level expect to crash and destroy at least 3 of them.
In just learning how to get it to fly straight and level expect to crash and destroy at least 3 of them.
Millwright
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Why does this sound like an outfit we used to call "Accidental Oil" ?
A critical flare stack without multiple ignition sources ? Who's kidding who, here ?
Of all the suggestions offered, the best, from a control standpoint is an R/C aircraft with a radio-triggered flare......all of which ought to earn you a prompt visit from the FBI, HS, etc. >MW
A critical flare stack without multiple ignition sources ? Who's kidding who, here ?
Of all the suggestions offered, the best, from a control standpoint is an R/C aircraft with a radio-triggered flare......all of which ought to earn you a prompt visit from the FBI, HS, etc. >MW
simmonsguns
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Punkin Chunkers, or the Mythbusters flaming chicken air cannon.
At least if your close to a bayou you can feed a gator.
At least if your close to a bayou you can feed a gator.
What an awesome thread.
Sounds like Clipper knows what he's talking about. That makes the most sense to me if there is any kind of a wildfire hazard. Launching flaming projectiles into an area that can catch fire but can't be accessed to put out the fire doesn't make any sense.
I also like the balloon idea. Hang a flare and two tethers and walk (or drive) it into position from opposite sides of the stack.
ETA: Oh yeah, I want to see the video too!
Sounds like Clipper knows what he's talking about. That makes the most sense to me if there is any kind of a wildfire hazard. Launching flaming projectiles into an area that can catch fire but can't be accessed to put out the fire doesn't make any sense.
I also like the balloon idea. Hang a flare and two tethers and walk (or drive) it into position from opposite sides of the stack.
ETA: Oh yeah, I want to see the video too!
swingpress
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Perhaps a tracer could be modified to burn all the way. Magnesium bullet?
I also think a kite on a wire is a good idea. Get the kite in position and shoot a guided flare up the wire.
If the stack exhaust is thick enough, would it snuff out the engine of any RC stuff that didn't have an oxygen supply on board?
I also think a kite on a wire is a good idea. Get the kite in position and shoot a guided flare up the wire.
If the stack exhaust is thick enough, would it snuff out the engine of any RC stuff that didn't have an oxygen supply on board?
SDC
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Probably the most effective "low tech" solution would be a helium balloon with a length of burning cannon fuse taped to it, but if you could figure out a way to rig a guide wire up to the stack, you could do the same thing with a model rocket engine (also with a piece of cannon fuse taped to it). That way, whenever you needed to, you could use a straw or small piece of plastic "angle iron" as the guide, tape it and the fuse to the engine with a wrap or two of tape, ready the electrical firing circuit, light the fuse, then fire the whole shebang up the wire.
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