I rarely pimp auctions, but y'all gotta see this one........

[rondog]

Sorry, I'd rather have one old Winchester with honest wear and tear than that pile of safe queens. Collectible special edition things ain't my bag. What would you do with 'em? Somebody might <OMG!> put a fingerprint on one!

Meh. So many other cool things I could have, and use, for that kind of money.

 

[JDGray]

Cant believe the guy from Gunsmoke, didn't swoop in with his chopper, and make a nice offer!

 

[Abel]

I dream of taking rifles like these and giving them to someone who would hunt the dog snot out of them. I hate a safe queen! I want to the see bluing worn down to nothing.

 

[heeler]

If they are USRAC rifles it's somewhat debateable about how collectable they are.
If true Winchesters before USRAC took over then who knows.
One of the things imho that finally ran Winchester into the ground was the endless models and model changes as well as commemoratives that USRAC owned Winchester kept pumping out.
Although that being said there are a few commemratives I would not mind owning if it was gifted to me.
As far as production runs the Blue Book might be helpful with production numbers.

 

[JohnBT]

These are actual asking prices for standard serial numbered guns. Low single digit guns are higher, etc. Click the link to see them all.

John

www.doublegun.com/roth.htm

1983 CHIEF CRAZY HORSE 38-55 cal. 19999 mfg. $750
1992 ARAPAHO 30-30 cal. 500 mfg. $1400 *
1974 APACHE 30-30 cal. 10200 mfg. $895
1976 SIOUX 30-30 cal. 12000 mfg. $895

 

[Legionnaire]

Heck, what would one do with that lot? If you bought such an inventory with the idea of selling them off individually for a significant return, wouldn't that make you, in effect, a dealer? Couldn't a non-licensed individual get in trouble for buying this lot with intention to resell?

 

[heeler]

Well since we are on the subject of Wincheter rifles,Commemoratives,a fool and his money,etc. check out this very long running(years actually) Gun Broker auction of Winchesters.
Gun Broker auction # 262648274.
Would YOU pay $175,000.00 for these??

 

[jsimmons]

I think he would have been better off selling them one at a time He could have made his asking price after selling just 1/4-1/3 of the collection...

 

[451 Detonics]

I bet if you looked in the Blue Book most of those would not show much of a premium over standard 94s with walnut stocks...Winchester made so many of these "commemoratives" that they really don't have much collectors value...maybe in another 50-75 years...

 

[Red Tornado]

Those are nice collections, but they're large enough it would be worth breaking them down and selling them individually. The difference in cash would be significant. Also, it's a lot easier to find 50 guys who want one shiny Winchester than it is to find one guy who wants (and can afford) 50 rifles.
RT

 

[BrocLuno]

I think he got offered about what it's worth

 

[natman]

I think he would have been better off selling them one at a time He could have made his asking price after selling just 1/4-1/3 of the collection...

We don't know his asking price. The $18,000 was the highest bid made, but it failed to meet the reserve, which is still unknown. There's 56 guns there and they're worth more than $322 each, even in quantity.

Yes, you'd have to be a dealer to legally buy and sell them off. I suspect that ATF would consider buying guns 56 at a time in order to sell them as "conducting a business".

 

[SSN Vet]

I'm not into ciche.....

especially ciche firearms

 

[KodiakBeer]

If you check the blue book you'll learn that "commemoratives" are not usually worth any more than the standard off-the-rack production rifle of the same year. In many cases they are worth considerably less.

 

[Jimfern]

I'm tempted to shoot the Winchester Cheyenne I have for sale for the reasons mentioned above.

 

[Motega]

I doubt there is any collector value whatsoever in them, they put out a zillion different "collector" models. If you check auction prices on any Winchester special editions they rarely sell for any more than a plain one... and I for one would prefer a stock model to something with medalions and geegaws. Still fine weapons but not much sense in paying extra unless it has some special meaning for you.

 

[dirtyjim]

i know several people who buy and liquidate large collections like that one.
their general rule on N.I.B. rifles is 50cents on the dollar and around 35-25cents on commemoratives.
if the guy wants to sell the the whole collection he will have to find a local liquidator or drastically lower his reserve.
most of the liquidators i know wouldn't touch a collection of commemoratives that size simply because its not worth the effort to move them.