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I think we can all relax!

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we might be able to relax but the insane hoarding of 22 rf will never end. it is funny when I hear guys say we must get kids into shooting. how will that happen with no 22 ammo or when it is found it is expensive
It will end when there is no reason to stockpile the ammunition other than you want your own cache available to you. I doubt you will see much price movement with 22 rimfire ammunition. Adjust and get used to the current prices.
 
Must drink coffee...
I was using the time last night to catch up on DVRed stuff, flipping over to FOX every 30 minutes to an hour just to get an update - somewhere around 11pm it was difficult to leave election coverage as I knew I was privy to something historic taking place!

I'd been telling folks for a while that if HRC won it would be close - if Trump won I have no idea if it would be close or a blowout, as I felt there was a hidden Trump vote out there.

Heck, you might consider me one of those hidden Trump voters!
I had no problem telling folks who I was voting for, and exactly what the (numerous) reasons were.
Never put up any kind of political signs in my life, but I sure would have liked to put a big ole' Trump sign in my yard except for the fact that those emotional HRC supporters would probably flatten your tires, break your windows, etc.

Let's hope gun owners have an inside track with DJT - from those inside the industry:
1. Both his sons are long time hunters (and at least one is a darn good shot) - not like your usual politician than throws on a vest and hat to pose for a hunting picture for their campaign.
2. One of his sons is a long time reloader - I doubt he's doing so to save money!
3. His sons said when they were being attacked by PETA for hunting, DJT came to their defense - they thought this would be a good time to pull their father aside and give him is "come to Jesus" moment AFA guns, the 2nd Amendment, etc.

And finally, I'm looking for volunteers to give those celebrities that said they were going to leave the country a ride to the airport - I've got dibs on the notorious RBG!
After all...the rest are just blowhards - RBG can do real damage to our country!

These 23 Celebrities Say They'll Leave The Country If Trump Is Elected
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cather...eave-the-country-if-trump-is-elected-n2215391
1. Jon Stewart
2. Chelsea Handler
3. Neve Campbell
4. Barry Diller
5. Lena Dunham
6. Keegan-Michael Key
7. Chloë Sevigny
8. Al Sharpton
9. Natasha Lyonne
10. Eddie Griffin
11. Spike Lee
12. Amber Rose
13. Samuel L. Jackson
14. Cher
15. George Lopez
16. Barbra Streisand
17. Raven-Symoné
18. Whoopi Goldberg
19. Omari Hardwick
20. Miley Cyrus
21. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
22. Amy Schumer
23. Katie Hopkins
 
These 23 Celebrities Say They'll Leave The Country If Trump Is Elected
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cather...eave-the-country-if-trump-is-elected-n2215391
1. Jon Stewart
2. Chelsea Handler
3. Neve Campbell
4. Barry Diller
5. Lena Dunham
6. Keegan-Michael Key
7. Chloë Sevigny
8. Al Sharpton
9. Natasha Lyonne
10. Eddie Griffin
11. Spike Lee
12. Amber Rose
13. Samuel L. Jackson
14. Cher
15. George Lopez
16. Barbra Streisand
17. Raven-Symoné
18. Whoopi Goldberg
19. Omari Hardwick
20. Miley Cyrus
21. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
22. Amy Schumer
23. Katie Hopkins

Don't let the door hit you in the butt as you leave. Good riddance! I have already refused to EVER attend a movie staring Samuel L. Jackson. The ad on TV makes me turn the channel.
 
As for the Trump Presidency... Remember the popular vote is simply a poll, the only thing that matters it the Electoral College.

But the electoral college is based on the popular vote by way of the numbers of House of Representatives that a particular state has. That's why the candidates focus on the cities where the highest population is concentrated as they often exercise ultimate control over state politics.

I'm content with the outcome and I expect the electoral vote totals to increase on the Trump side of the fence.
 
It will end when there is no reason to stockpile the ammunition other than you want your own cache available to you. I doubt you will see much price movement with 22 rimfire ammunition. Adjust and get used to the current prices.
I aint adjusting to nothing I shoot German airguns into tiny groups at 45 yds. 22 rf hoarding which drove up prices will never end it is an addiction
 
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it is a great day, I no longer feel pressured to buy 5k primers regardless of price and I can relax about those ar15's for my kids. they are too young to shoot now, but I want them to be able to have a MSR of their own when the day comes. I don't need to buy now :)

regarding 22lr ammo, i can nearly reload 223 blasting ammo for the same price. . . . .ok, not quite the same price, but I am seeing the cheapest 22lr being nearly 8c per shot. i can do 223 for what, 11c per shot. 9mm for 10c per shot. I used range pickup brass (i have quite a bit). I don't think it will as ever be affordable, all i see on shelves are FGMM, ELEY or overpriced CCI
I have used 4 grains of trail boss with 55 FMJ in 223 and it sounds like a PCP airgun but cant find cheap bullets. like to see if I can get wolf bi metal bullets
 
Don't let the door hit you in the butt as you leave. Good riddance! I have already refused to EVER attend a movie staring Samuel L. Jackson. The ad on TV makes me turn the channel.

Agree totally on SLJ. The #1 racist in the field of "entertainment". South Africa, his intended destination, should slam the door on this thug.
 
I'll relax after I see what he does. Right now I have to help Whoopi, Cher, Miley and the rest of them move...
don't let the door hit them in the back.
although, shouldn't Rush be out of the country and Nugent be dead or in jail?
just sayin' ...
 
Don't know half of those "celebrities" on the list ... Does this mean I need to pick up a copy of People, Entertainment Weekly or US at the grocery checkout?

Ginsburg hung on long past the urging of liberals to retire, thinking we'd have another liberal administration following Obama's ... Looks like she'll be on the court 'til she's 100 (or passes) now.
 
Trump said of guns "nothing I like better than nobody has them" and now he's supposed to be on our side.

Forgive me for not feeling relaxed.
 
This is a great day that helps restore my confidence in the country.

The country would be very, very much beautified and improved if the entire group below left never to return.
These 23 Celebrities Say They'll Leave The Country If Trump Is Elected
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/cather...eave-the-country-if-trump-is-elected-n2215391
1. Jon Stewart
2. Chelsea Handler
3. Neve Campbell
4. Barry Diller
5. Lena Dunham
6. Keegan-Michael Key
7. Chloë Sevigny
8. Al Sharpton
9. Natasha Lyonne
10. Eddie Griffin
11. Spike Lee
12. Amber Rose
13. Samuel L. Jackson
14. Cher
15. George Lopez
16. Barbra Streisand
17. Raven-Symoné
18. Whoopi Goldberg
19. Omari Hardwick
20. Miley Cyrus
21. Ruth Bader Ginsburg
22. Amy Schumer
23. Katie Hopkins
 
Trump said of guns "nothing I like better than nobody has them" and now he's supposed to be on our side.

Forgive me for not feeling relaxed.

Try to unwind for one day. The alternative would have been far worse. Trump already released his SCOTUS selection possibilities months ago. He'll be held to those Conservatives. Our guns are a lot safer today than they were before last night. :)
 
That's gonna be a crowded bus. Canada might build a wall.:D
I tried to relax last night............. with brandy and cigars. Trump was ahead when I went to bed. I half expected TPTB to pull a parliamentary double reverse at O dark thirty, with hitlery coming out on top.
Trump ain't Jefferson, but I think this is very good news for 2A, as in it could have been a lot worse.
 
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Trump said of guns "nothing I like better than nobody has them" and now he's supposed to be on our side.

Forgive me for not feeling relaxed.
You might feel better if you did the following:
1. Consider some things he's said in THIS century instead of the 1999 statement you referenced. Even at that...
2. Stop taking things out of context like you did above. Here's the entire discussion from the 1999 interview with Larry King. Cliff's Notes: He says, "I say you have to be allowed to have a gun."

KING: Gun control.

TRUMP: If you could take the guns away from the bad guys, and there are plenty of them out there, I'm all for it, but you can't. Now, if you had a law that says no guns, the people that are law abiding are going to go by that law, but the bad guys aren't, so they're going to have all the guns and the good guys aren't. It's very simple.

KING: But the countries that has that don't have gun killings.

TRUMP: Well, the countries that have it don't have as many bad guys as us, OK? The fact is...

KING: We have more bad guys than other?

TRUMP: I'll tell you what, you take a look. I mean, what we have now with guns is not that I'm a big fan at all.

KING: You agree with the NRA?

TRUMP: I don't agree entirely, but I do agree that you should have the power to have a weapon, because other people do and other people are not necessarily...

KING: Would you favor...

TRUMP: ... the nicest people in the world.

KING: ... long checks and how people get the guns? You don't favor easy access?

TRUMP: Yes, yes, no, I favor -- I favor you have to go through a process, but the fact is that the bad ones already have one, and they're not going to go through a process either; they're not going to go through any process.

Look, there's nothing I like better than nobody has them, but that's not going to happen, Larry. So, as long as that's not going to happen, I say you have to be allowed to have a gun.
 
This is a great day that helps restore my confidence in the country.

The country would be very, very much beautified and improved if the entire group below left never to return.

A fine quote. Millions of gun owners feel the same way. We got out and voted and helped bring about this amazing victory over a very gun hating, destructive politician. My thanks to every one on this forum who voted for America.
 
A fine quote. Millions of gun owners feel the same way. We got out and voted and helped bring about this amazing victory over a very gun hating, destructive politician. My thanks to every one on this forum who voted for America.

Amen to that!!
As for those "23" that will "supposedly" leave the USA if our man won. The main one I'd like to see go is Al Sharpton, and take his trouble making sidekick Jesse Jackson with him.
SEE YA!!
 
Don't know half of those "celebrities" on the list ... Does this mean I need to pick up a copy of People, Entertainment Weekly or US at the grocery checkout?

Ginsburg hung on long past the urging of liberals to retire, thinking we'd have another liberal administration following Obama's ... Looks like she'll be on the court 'til she's 100 (or passes) now.

A big mistake on Ruth's part. Somewhere, Justice Scalia is smiling right now.
 
A fine quote. Millions of gun owners feel the same way. We got out and voted and helped bring about this amazing victory over a very gun hating, destructive politician. My thanks to every one on this forum who voted for America.
I have to admit that even I made earlier myself a "promise" not to vote for Trump over many reasons, and that I will vote for everything else on ballot except presidential candidates, last night when we were going there, I was thinking "what is alternative ?" Four years of her ? Eight years of her ? The ballot was just under my hand and I would feel guilty it we let her win Ohio.
So, my wife and I decided to vote for Trump at the last moment.
as for people "threatening" that they will leave the country, I say good riddance.
some people were saying the same thing when current president was about to get elected. Pfft !
 
Hoping Trump's win is about the people taking a stand against corruption and cozy insiders caring less about the country than themselves.

Hoping the future has us keeping it up by insisting on better and better candidates for those that would represent our nation.

Among Trump's SCOTUS nominees, I like those that are/were law clerks to Justices Thomas and Scalia.

Anyone tutored to Scalia's level of historic perspective and scholastic excellence would make a great justice.
 
I hope you are all correct.
I guess I don't see him as any sort of an outsider though.
My honest opinion? In terms of guns, this was probably not as bad as it could have been (if she had been elected), but in terms of all the rest of the mess in politics, this was just business as usual.
Again, I would really love to be proven wrong, in a good way, but I won't be holding my breath!
 
Trump already released his SCOTUS selection possibilities months ago.
He backed off of that list 2 days later, although to be fair Ted Cruz said one of the main reasons he endorsed him in the end was because he got him to agree to only nominate people off of a different shorter list, which Cruz approved of.

You might feel better if you did the following:
1. Consider some things he's said in THIS century instead of the 1999 statement you referenced. Even at that...
2. Stop taking things out of context like you did above. Here's the entire discussion from the 1999 interview with Larry King. Cliff's Notes: He says, "I say you have to be allowed to have a gun."

KING: Gun control.

TRUMP: If you could take the guns away from the bad guys, and there are plenty of them out there, I'm all for it, but you can't. Now, if you had a law that says no guns, the people that are law abiding are going to go by that law, but the bad guys aren't, so they're going to have all the guns and the good guys aren't. It's very simple.

KING: But the countries that has that don't have gun killings.

TRUMP: Well, the countries that have it don't have as many bad guys as us, OK? The fact is...

KING: We have more bad guys than other?

TRUMP: I'll tell you what, you take a look. I mean, what we have now with guns is not that I'm a big fan at all.

KING: You agree with the NRA?

TRUMP: I don't agree entirely, but I do agree that you should have the power to have a weapon, because other people do and other people are not necessarily...

KING: Would you favor...

TRUMP: ... the nicest people in the world.

KING: ... long checks and how people get the guns? You don't favor easy access?

TRUMP: Yes, yes, no, I favor -- I favor you have to go through a process, but the fact is that the bad ones already have one, and they're not going to go through a process either; they're not going to go through any process.

Look, there's nothing I like better than nobody has them, but that's not going to happen, Larry. So, as long as that's not going to happen, I say you have to be allowed to have a gun.

Sorry but I refuse to dismiss decades of information on a candidate because it was long ago when they said it. I'll judge a candidate on his or her entire record. And if you take everything he's ever said, he's never been good on gun rights, until the he announced. Its simply wether someone believes what he's said for the last few years, or if they believe what he said for decades before. I personally don't know, I don't believe he cares at all about gun control or gun rights. He'll do what ever he thinks will make him look best at the time, and that doesn't relax me at all.

What does relax me is that is doesn't matter, their is no one individual than can turn the tide in this country. We are on a down hill spiral because of the people that make up this country, my faith in the American people is no longer existent. As a result I have been reminded to put my faith where it belongs, in God. And he is good, and he is control, that I can relax in.


I'll bow out now as I doubt any good will come from me continuing.
 
He backed off of that list 2 days later, although to be fair Ted Cruz said one of the main reasons he endorsed him in the end was because he got him to agree to only nominate people off of a different shorter list, which Cruz approved of.



Sorry but I refuse to dismiss decades of information on a candidate because it was long ago when they said it. I'll judge a candidate on his or her entire record. And if you take everything he's ever said, he's never been good on gun rights, until the he announced. Its simply wether someone believes what he's said for the last few years, or if they believe what he said for decades before. I personally don't know, I don't believe he cares at all about gun control or gun rights. He'll do what ever he thinks will make him look best at the time, and that doesn't relax me at all.

What does relax me is that is doesn't matter, their is no one individual than can turn the tide in this country. We are on a down hill spiral because of the people that make up this country, my faith in the American people is no longer existent. As a result I have been reminded to put my faith where it belongs, in God. And he is good, and he is control, that I can relax in.


I'll bow out now as I doubt any good will come from me continuing.

Probably the best thing, as most of us here realize that we dodged a large caliber bullet last night.
 
What is amazingly crazy is that in all of the analysis going on with regard to how Hillary managed to lose this election ... NO ONE is mentioning the possibility that nationwide, gun owners were galvanized and actually got out to the polls. We know that all of us here had major concerns about Clinton's anti-gun statements, her proposals and dedication to big gun control efforts, and mostly the specter of her nominating at least two or three new Supreme Court justices ... but NONE of the mainstream media -- that I've seen thus far -- has broached the possibility that the gun control issue could have been a major factor in her defeat.
 
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