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I want an SKS

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Bravo11, Jan 29, 2004.

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  1. Bravo11

    Bravo11 Member

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    A friend of mine just brought in his new SKS and I want one.
    My "Arms Dealer" is an FFL holder that works out of his general store.
    He doesn't carry any guns in stock but if you tell him what you want he can usually order and get it. He doesn't know where to look to order an SKS.
    Can anyone steer me(him) in the right direction.
    Thanks.
    PS...What about a VEPR?
     
  2. Daedalus

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    Great. Thanks
     
  4. alan

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    Megciata:

    Browse through any recent copy of Shotgun News, there are a great many suppliers, aside from Aim, though from my dealoings with them, there is nothing wrong there.
     
  5. STORMIN29

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    sks

    Try WWW.INTERORDNANCE.COM for SKS's. They have them new,unissued condtion for $119.00. Better yet, get your own C&R license for $30.00 and buy your own and have them shipped to your house.
     
  6. alan

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    STORMIN29:

    The C & R License is of course an option, however as a licensee, you are required to KEEP RECORDS, and you better do just that. Also, as a licensee, your premisis is open to ATF "Inspections", something that some might not particularly care for.

    Pay your money, and take your choice.
     
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    In my experience I/O has honesty problems (See thier "WW2 Vintage" scoped mosin nagants).
     
  8. cslinger

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    As far as C&R goes.

    As far as I read all my literature it isn't your premises that are subject to inspection but your collection. You may elect to have them visit your premises or pack up your collection to bring to them. They must schedule an appointment with you unlike a real FFL in which I believe they can come visit your store whenever they wish.

    As for the record keeping it is relatively painless but as stated very necessary. You must collect all the information that the ATF asks you to collect and you must keep this information even after you let your license expire. Off the top of my head I cannot remember how long you must keep the records.

    The C&R license is most likely paid for with your first purchase.

    As for the original question regarding the SKS has anybody mentioned.......

    www.aimsurplus.com :D


    I bought one from them awhile back it is was simply like buying a brand new rifle, albeit a new rifle very well preserved in cosmoline. Make sure if you buy an SKS to heed the cleaning warnings about making sure the firing pin is allowed to freely move in the bolt. You should be able to hear move when you shake the bolt. If not you could have a slamfire. This can be rather difficult the first time with all the cosmoline but subsequently it is very easy to take care of.

    Chris
     
  9. railroader

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    I got 2 rifles from Interordnance. They are very nice rifles. You could also try cole distributing. I got a mosin nagant from them that was very nice also. Go to the cole's site and type in sks in the search box. http://www.coledistributing.com/ Mark
     
  10. alan

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    Story, spelled STORY, meaning that I can't actually verify it, re C & R is more or less as follows. Came from a C & R licensee I'm acquainted with. He said that a law suit against BATF had been filed, class action type of thing, and that BATF scuttled away, with it's tail between it's legs.

    BATF tried to pull some of their usual "stuff" on C & R licensed folks, demanding the special submission of three or more years worth of dispositions. There was also, as I remember, some chaff raised about some C & R licensees making "to many sales", which is interesting for so far as I know, the law doesn't specify anything about such stuff, licensee is not supposed to enter into more than X number of transactions within any given period of time. Also, re FFL's, ATF has given some holderes thereof a hard time over what they claimed was "insufficient" sales. Seems that there is no pleasing the "Gunstappo", or if you prefer, the JBT's, as Congressman John Dingell described them back in the 1970's, long before anyone ever heard of Wayne LaPierre.

    As to routine inspections of the premisis of an FFL, these routine inspections are supposedly "arranged for", that is to say, appointments are made. Gun Traces are another thing. Of course, re the stipulation that no central registry is to be established, and the stipulation that the 4473's are to remain with the licensee, unless/until they quit business, I understand that BATF'ers have been showing up at dealer locations and wholesale copying data from 4473 forms, and or showing up with portable scanners, through which they run the dealers records, they being the 4473's. Given that scanner content is likely downloaded into BATF computers, it appears that the no centralized registry stipilation is being violated to hell and back.

    The C&R license is most likely paid for with your first purchase, you said. Here you might be right, but like I said, one pays their money and takes their choice.

    As for the original question regarding the SKS has anybody mentioned.......

    www.aimsurplus.com


    I bought one from them awhile back it is was simply like buying a brand new rifle, albeit a new rifle very well preserved in cosmoline. Make sure if you buy an SKS to heed the cleaning warnings about making sure the firing pin is allowed to freely move in the bolt. You should be able to hear move when you shake the bolt. If not you could have a slamfire. This can be rather difficult the first time with all the cosmoline but subsequently it is very easy to take care of.

    Chris

    I got one of those Yugoslav SKS rifles through SOG. When I finally got it "decosmolined" it appeared to be in fine shape. Due to weather conditions, I haven't been able to get out and shoot the damned thing, to cold and snowy for me, and then maybe I'm getting to old for such foolishness. Tried boiling water on the bolt and bolt carrier the receiver cover and recoil spring assemble. Didn't do much good at all. Next attempt was aerosol type brake cleaner. A little better, but not much. Firing pin movement was still "muddy". Last attempt was back to square 1, GASOLINE carefully poured through the barrel and other opennings. Worked fine. Barrel then cleaned with lighter fluid on a patch, and BrakeFreeCLP. Barrel is quite clean, rifling looks brand new. Poured 3 or 4 inches worth of gasoline into a bucket and sloshed the remaining parts around in it. Recoil spring assembly, receiver cover along with bolt carrier and bolt, trigger group also. Let it soak for a few minutes. Completely degreased bolt, firing pin moves quite freely and noisly too, as it should, when one shakes the bolt. Lightly lubred the rifle and reassembled. Waiting for a break in this miserable weather. Make sure that the
    firing pin moves freely, and that it isn't hung up. Failure to so do could lead to slam fire, possible damage to shooter and rifle, perhaps more to one than to the other, can't say which one though, and wouldn't like to find out the hard way.

    alan
     
  11. Kestryll

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    On the C&R license, the ATF cannot arbitrarily come into your home. They have to call, make an appointment or you can take your book and inventory to thier office.
    "To ensure compliance with recordkeeping requirements, any ATF officer may inspect the inventory and records of a licensed collector once during any 12-month period. At the election of the collector, the inspection may be performed at the ATF office nearest the place where the inventory and records of the collector are maintained."
    From the 'OPEN LETTER TO ALL FEDERALLY LICENSED COLLECTORS OF CURIO OR RELIC FIREARMS' on the BATFE website:
    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/011801ffl.htm



    Also you are not required to hold on to the bound book paperwork for any length of time after your licence expires.

    "(G8) Are licensed collectors required to turn in their acquisition/ disposition records to ATF if their collector's license is not renewed or they discontinue their collecting activity?

    No. The GCA requires the delivery of required records to the Government within 30 days after a firearms "business" is discontinued. A license as a collector of curios or relics does not authorize any business with respect to firearms. This is in contrast to firearms importers, manufacturers, and dealers who are licensed to engage in a firearms business. Therefore, the records required to be kept by licensed collectors under the law and regulations are not business records and are not required to be turned in to ATF when collector's licenses are not renewed or collecting activity under such licenses is discontinued.[18 U. S. C. 923( g)( 4), 27 CFR 178.127] "
    This is from the BATFE FAQ web page:
    http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm#g8
     
  12. SteelyDan

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    A friend of mine ordered one from InterOrdinance three or four weeks ago, and still hasn't received it. I ordered one from AIM and had it in four days, and it was outstanding. For what it's worth.
     
  13. Sharpshooter223

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    I second the motion to look through shotgun news. You can pick one up for as low as $90.00
     
  14. tango3065

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    Not to rob the post but I seen a sks with a nice new montecarlo stock on it, where can these stocks be purchased at?
     
  15. Kestrel

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    I wouldn't put anything past the ATF. They will try anything they can get away with. A dealer I know, during the Clinton administration, had an sgent come to his store and start going through his 4473s. The agent was copying down the info from all his customers that had bought AR-15s. Another customer in the store saw what the agent was doing and asked for the agents name and said he was going to sue the ATF. The ATF agent then ripped up the info he had been copying, threw it away and left.

    They are like the SS.
     
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