I zeroed my Savage A22 for 200 yards today.

[CoalCrackerAl]

200 yards is challenging for 22lr. I put a Simmons 4x12x40 on it. I forgot i had that scope. It had a 3x9x40 on it. After i had it in at 50 i grouped checked 4 different rounds i bought along. The Federal black grouped the best. I checked zero at 100. The moved out to the 200 yard. Shot some of the win 555 and the fed black. I right off cranked up the elevation. Had to move it some more. The scope did not run our of clicks. I have on the best i can with the center cross hairs. But wow do groups open up at that distance. I played around with the steel gongs too then. Took a pic of one of the small ones at 200. Hung my staple gun on it for size compare.












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[NIGHTLORD40K]

Nice shootin!

 

[LoonWulf]

Nice shooting! That's a pretty accurate auto loading 22.

Those gongs look like they've seen better days.....

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Yeah they need replaced. The 300 yard ones they did replace. And some of the 250 yard ones. Over at the pistol range they put new ones up too. So im thinking the 200 yard ones will be soon. Im really getting hooked on the longer distance shooting.

 

[LoonWulf]

Yeah they need replaced. The 300 yard ones they did replace. And some of the 250 yard ones. Over at the pistol range they put new ones up too. So im thinking the 200 yard ones will be soon. Im really getting hooked on the longer distance shooting.

The pause before the ping, makes that sound so much sweeter.....

My dad just got hooked on distant shooting maybe a month or two ago, we can't take our 22s out to any kind of real distance so he's been shooting heavier rifles at 4-500 mostly.
Personally I'd really like to take the 22s out to 2 or 300 I think it actually be more challenging.

 

[Howland937]

pause before the ping, makes that sound so much sweeter.....

I always claim I'm shooting targets outside of hearing distance. If I can't hear it hit, I can't hear it miss either.(I say that because I did have a conversation with a guy about sub-sonics and his claim that his "hits" were too quiet to hear)

.22's even at 100 is a lot of fun. I've shot squirrels pretty close to that, but never tried .22's past 100. Bet it would be a lot of fun. And humbling.

 

[LoonWulf]

I always claim I'm shooting targets outside of hearing distance. If I can't hear it hit, I can't hear it miss either.(I say that because I did have a conversation with a guy about sub-sonics and his claim that his "hits" were too quiet to hear)

.22's even at 100 is a lot of fun. I've shot squirrels pretty close to that, but never tried .22's past 100. Bet it would be a lot of fun. And humbling.

I plink stuff off the berm at 100 quite a bit, only rarely do we get to shoot anywhere farther tho. If we could regularly shoot them where theres more distance, id probably spend alot more time behind my .22s lol.

I had a buddy comment on my subsonic blackout loads, which unsuppressed sounded a little louder than a hv .22 rounds, they were comfortable(ish) to shoot a few times with no ear pro. When the 245mbcs hit steel plates the clang was astonishingly loud lol.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

You can hear them hit the steel. I wasn't sure if they would clank or not being a light bullet.

 

[JDGray]

The shooting range at work has a 10” gong, I can hit it at 350 yards with a bit of hold over!

 

[Varminterror]

There’s little in the world I enjoy more than shooting 22LR’s at long range.

That yellow silhouette target is your 200yard target, yes? How much dialing is there in that target, or are all of those shots at the same setting on the optic?

I’m glad you took your 22 out to 200 yards! It drives me nuts that more folks don’t realize what they can do with their 22’s, even with their common optics and some inexpensive mounts/rings. The math is pretty straight forward: supersonic ammo will have about 12” of drop built into a 100yrd zero, and subsonic/standard ammo will have about 17” in a 100yrd zero. With a 2” optic height, that’s 14moa or 19moa “up” from optical center. Getting out to 200 requires another 15-18moa from 100yrd zero, so basically, any scope with 80moa internal adjustment can make it in a flat base, whereas adding 20MOA in the base or rings gets us out to 300 and beyond before we run out of scope. Add 20-40moa of angle to the mount or rings (Burris Signature Zee rings are under $50) and most optics can typically get out to at least 250, and many common optics can get out past 400 yards. I have a 22 Charger set up with 60moa of rings and base angle under a 90moa scope which lets me sneak a hair past of 500 yards before I’d be stuck holding in the reticle. Too much fun to be had. I generally want to be under 2moa out to 200, then under 3moa at 300-400 with a given load, otherwise my targets have to get annoyingly large.

I’m actually cleaning our Chargers today to take my boy out tomorrow after school - there’s a Silhouette event Sunday I might hit about 2 hours from here taking us out to 385, and then another ELR-22 event next weekend which will run out to 460 on 12” square targets. Hoping my boy still has it in him after a month away from the trigger to at least make a respectable showing, but we’ll have fun either way.

 

[Crosshair]

I have a Savage bolt 22 setup for that. Fixed 10x scope. 20 MOA scope base.

The ammo I use is unavailable currently, so I havn't shot it much.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Yes the target is at 200 yards. I wasn't sure if i would have enough turns in the scope or not to use the center cross hairs. But it did. I didn't count them. After i was set at a 100. I just gave the elevation a full 360 degree turn then tuned from there. The rifle has scope mount base to. Not the dove tail like a lot of rim fires do. I put high rings on it. I got lucky and it worked out well.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I have a Savage bolt 22 setup for that. Fixed 10x scope. 20 MOA scope base.

The ammo I use is unavailable currently, so I haven't shot it much.

I don't have any match grade 22 ammo either. Probably the closest i have would be CCI mini mags. I'll group test them. Our club does informal 200 yard 22 lr matches every month. I would like to do some of those later. I want to get consistent with hitting the small gongs at 200 with the bulk stuff the best it will do. My LGS does carry Ely.

 

[T_Walker]

That looks like a good time Coal Cracker. I had a little fun with my 22lr at 200 for the first time recently. I usually don't feel like fighting the frequent wind around here so I try to keep it around 125yds. My new gong was calling though, and hitting it out over 200 gave me a little more respect for 22lr.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

The club is on top of the mountain. There is usually some winds. I try to shoot between the breezes. It would be cool if they had wind flags out on the range. I try to remember to look at the trees and leaves.

 

[KsSkaEnthusiast]

i have had remarkable luck with my a22. I honestly prefer it over my 10/22 or just about any of the other 22s except the czs but that's a whole different category.

 

[T_Walker]

The club is on top of the mountain. There is usually some winds. I try to shoot between the breezes. It would be cool if they had wind flags out on the range. I try to remember to look at the trees and leaves.

Wind flags! Great suggestion, I need to try that.

 

[webrx]

I love shooting 22 at 100 our range has stands to 200. Have to give it a shot. And I recently picked up an a22 so now I know it will do it.
Nice shooting.
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[CoalCrackerAl]

i have had remarkable luck with my a22. I honestly prefer it over my 10/22 or just about any of the other 22s except the czs but that's a whole different category.

I had my 10/22 at the club. I was shooting it at 50 yards. While my son was working on getting used to the 200 yard shooting with his 243. For the heck of it i shot at the man sized steel silhouette with the 10/22. To see if i could hear the rounds hit the steel. When i did. I went after the bigger gongs. A lot of hold over with it, When i started to hit the bigger ones and could hear the hits. That made my mind up to work on the A22. I have a CZ 457 in 22 mag. Im going to try it out at the longer shots. Just going to use the BDC marks. Im also going to take my Savage 93 in 17HMR.

 

[KsSkaEnthusiast]

I had my 10/22 at the club. I was shooting it at 50 yards. While my son was working on getting used to the 200 yard shooting with his 243. For the heck of it i shot at the man sized steel silhouette with the 10/22. To see if i could hear the rounds hit the steel. When i did. I went after the bigger gongs. A lot of hold over with it, When i started to hit the bigger ones and could hear the hits. That made my mind up to work on the A22. I have a CZ 457 in 22 mag. Im going to try it out at the longer shots. Just going to use the BDC marks. Im also going to take my Savage 93 in 17HMR.

a buddy of mine has a 93 in 17hmr and it can flat out shoot. I love my cz and my a22. i can usually get about 2 moa out of them being that i have never really scoped them up in the way they deserve to really test it. But at 35 yards with aguila ammo the a22 almost boringly shoots 1 hole groups. Probably has more to do with vision further out than anything.

 

[Varminterror]

Rimfire 17’s are a different animal than 22LRs when we reach out long. So much more speed, similar to improved BC’s, and functionally improved ammo quality across the market... man, oh man, 17’s are like cheating.

This was a rapid fire group, 8 rounds in under a minute, but I still hung onto 1.1moa at 200yrds with my WSM B-Mag, despite holding over in a BDC reticle and one of the worst scopes I’ve ever owned. Reaching out with 17 Rimfires is SO much easier, especially the WSM. It’s really almost like shooting a centerfire rifle. Can’t wait to get my Bmag threaded for a tuner brake!

 

[Howland937]

17’s are like cheating.

I vaguely remember seeing a comparison of sorts between 17HMR and .22LR concerning wind deflection past 50 yards, out to 200 yards. That wouldn't have been one of your posts was it?

I was thinking that the 17, which has a reputation of being useless on windy days, ended up being very similar to the 22LR in terms of wind drift past 50 yards.
Maybe I'm just imagining seeing a comparison of those things, though.

 

[Varminterror]

I vaguely remember seeing a comparison of sorts between 17HMR and .22LR concerning wind deflection past 50 yards, out to 200 yards. That wouldn't have been one of your posts was it?

I was thinking that the 17, which has a reputation of being useless on windy days, ended up being very similar to the 22LR in terms of wind drift past 50 yards.
Maybe I'm just imagining seeing a comparison of those things, though.

I don’t recall tabulating 17’s vs. 22LR wind drift, but I post a lot, I may have.

The WSM is truly a different animal than the HMR, and comparing my 300 yard data for the 20 grain WSM versus my standard velocity 22LR load, the WSM drifts a hair over half as much as the 22LR. My 17grn HMR load matches it within a click for wind at 300, but is only drifting 60% as much at 100yrds, and only 80% as much as 22LR at 200... at 400, the lighter bullet is only taking 10% more drift, and the wheels have really come off of all of them by now anyway. At 300, the WSM is drifting half as much as the other two, so every MPH of wind error to 22LR is only 1/2mph for WSM.

But... wind ain’t the only game, because at 300, 22LR is dropping 10.1mils and HMR is only dropping 2.1 mils, and the WSM is only dropping 1.2 mils... a bit of velocity variability is incredibly more impactful on the 22LR’s compared to the HMR’s and WSM’s. A bit of BC variability is more impactful when you’re only trucking 1030fps. So a 50fps ES can mean a click between a top and bottom shot of a group in 17WSM at 300, whereas 50fps ES in 22LR means 4 clicks from top to bottom of a group.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

I have a Burris full-field E1 6.5-20X50 riding on my 17HMR. It should do fine out on the range. I have the ballistic plex recticle one. I did some grouping test with the ammo i have for the rifle.

 

[DMW1116]

I’ve shot my Marlin 60 out to 175 with standard velocity ammo, but not to 200. I guess I know what I’m doing tomorrow after testing my 30-30 loads. Come to think of it, if everything goes according to plan those are only going 1,500 fps. They’d be fun to 200 too.