Ice on the car gun.....help?

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You gun is frosting for the same reason your windows do. Tell the girl friend the two of ya have to quit breathing so heavy until the temps go up:D

It might help to put the gun under the seat when you get in and turn the heat on. The cold metal causes the warm moisture to condense on it. Heating the gun along with the air will help prevent it.
 
Okay, so basically just "letting it be" and warming it up/wiping off the condensation if/when it forms seems to be the way to take care of the frosting?
 
Okay, so basically just "letting it be" and warming it up/wiping off the condensation if/when it forms seems to be the way to take care of the frosting?

Not in my opinion. If you just wipe it down, that doesn't get rid of the moisture inside of the gun.. If you have moisture outside because of condensation, it's in every nook and cranny of the inside also.

Whatever you store it in, make sure you put a dessicant pouch or two in with it....that should mitigate any moisture problem....

+1. Personally, I'd put in a quart sized Ziplock bag with a few dessicant packs in the bag. The packs will absorb all moisture, and the bag will prevent further moisture from accumulating.. If you need the gun, ziplocks open really fast, or you may even be able to shoot it without removing it from the bag.
 
Where do you park your car at night?

Oh........and.......do you lock it?

I just need to know what tools to bring.
 
Exactly.
Car's locked, glove box is locked, parked right next to the "dorm mom"s room, and it's a low crime area; I take the proper precautions just the same, however.

I would appreciate it if the primary question at hand was the one that was addressed.
So what you're saying is that rather than storing it in the bottom of your backpack where no one will ever see it, you leave it under the watchful eye of someone who doesn't know it's there. :rolleyes: You can't bring it into your dorm room but it's legal to have in your glove box? . . . hmmm Strange. As much as you drive, you don't need a "car piece".

Get a lock-box and store it in the trunk. With the pistol in a lock-box in the trunk, it shouldn't be subject to the heating and cooling that's causing the condensation/freezing cycle. It should stay cold and dry.
 
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I'd second a lock box in the trunk, even a tool box with a latch for a padlock. Even nicer would be to have it bolt to the trunk bottom through the floor pan if you can get around the fuel tank. I think it will stop getting ice on it once it's in the trunk. I don't think it has anything to do with a heater core leak (antifreeze coolant should not freeze), just artificial elevation in temp and rapid cooling imo.
 
(antifreeze coolant should not freeze),
The 50% antifreeze in the coolent doesn't freeze.
It soaks into the carpet and stays there.

It's the 50% water in the coolent that evaporates and freezes on everything inside the car when the heater starts warming things up.

rc.
 
Unless you drive your car often, I would leave it at home. If you park in the campus lot, walk to your dorm, and basically use your car to drive home or just on the weekends I wouldn't keep it in the car. Theives target these lots all the time (From experience).

Just my opinion. If your university is in a terrible place, transfer OR try to live off campus where you can keep a firearm - thats what I did.
 
I own/drive an SUV, there is no trunk. Also, my dorm room window faces over the parking lot, and if I look past my CPU, I can see the parking lot outside, with my car in as safe a spot as there is out there.

I don't drive much ATM because it's -4*F; in warmer weather, I do. And for the people suggestion I basically anchor the thing inside of a lock box in my car, because I "don't need" a "car piece" (which becomes my CCW piece when I leave campus, BTW).....how many of you would go out and do the same, if you were in a situation where you weren't at home & couldn't take your piece indoors?

AS for "leaving it at home"....I am not at college "in-state," and trust me--you would also enjoy having a firearm close by on the drive between college and "home."
 
Eightball , I was a foreign car tech before they were called techs, and for probably longer than you have been alive.

With in that time, since probably for longer than you have been alive, i was a winter hiker in the White mountains of NH.

It looks like this then, and I am the old geezer on the left in tans..
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It is about -24 below 0 here these days in dark...

Back in the day there was no such thing as digital cameras, and mine were old manual 35mm Minoltas which still work. These will work in temps as low as -60 and have, colder maybe, but the thing is once they get cold they must stay cold.

Many other hikers would bring their camera gear inside a place called Grayknob, and I simply left mine outside when I went inside to socialize and cook my dinner.

The guys that brought their cold cameras inside created water inside their cameras.

What I did going from my house to drive to the trail head was to allow the camera to chill slowly in a padded camera case, placed in the rear of my heated car. It was a volvo wagon. The drive wasn't very long either no more than maybe 1.5 hours counting a stop for last minute frozen foods.

At the trail head I left the camera in it padded bag, and opened the zipper a bit, placing the camera in the top of my pack, and keeping it sheltered and still cooling it down.

By the time I hiked up to Grayknob that camera would be what ever temp the air was, mostly -40 below.

When I got in the area I set up camp, pretty much dug a grave in the snow 7.5 feet long, by 2.5 feet wide, by however deep the snow might be. No tent.

I would lean my pack in the head of the hole and get my bivey sack filled with my pad and sleeping bag, and leave the camera in the pack.

At times it was hard to reload the frozen film as it would snap off wrapping it on the spindle inside the camera. But never once did I ever think to try and warm that camera up at all, and I took at least a 1,000 pictures over the years.

Those who didn't freeze their shutters shut, froze the film to itself and encountered any possible problems. Any camera that depended on batteries became extra weight, and worthless.

As a car mechanic I know the glove box gets a lot of heat. All the duct work is near the glove box, and the lock is something just about any fool can break in under 1 second with not much more than bare fingers.

I lost a whole Kawasakii Nomad to a thief who was armed with nothing more than a pair of vise grips. He simply grabbed the hasps of the type most often used on enclosed trailers and snapped off the upper hasp. He bent each hasp about 3 times and bingo, he was all set for the next of 3 hasps.

The first place any thief is going to break into will be the glove box, wouldn't you?

So at the least go buy for 10 dollars a Brinks Locking box and bolt it to the rear of your car, and use bolts known as carriage bolts with the nuts inside the box, so the bolts can't be removed from the outside.

Cover the nuts inside the box with either wood or plastic. Make small blocks of wood to hold the gun snuggly, but no padding of any sort that can trap and hold moisture, so the gun can breath. If you decide padding must be in order, padd under the box before you bolt it in, and pad over the box after it is locked and this insulation is to slow how fast the temps change, not to keep the gun warm.

Use a better gun oil like BreakFree and lube the gun inside and out with a thin film of oil. I mean thin! Wipe down the mag, make the rails clean, and do not flood them.

Once more use as much insulation under the box as you do over the box, always keep that the same.

That frost came from the gun getting warm and then as it cooled it caused sweating to occur, just like a glass filled with ice does in summer time.
 
I can always take my pistol in my residence.
I dont care if it is posted or not.
You have a backpack and a concealed permit? Then unless there are metal detectors and searches you can bring it in.
If you still wont... I have a lock box in the front of my SUV, if I am out somewhere and have to go into a place like a courthouse... thats where it gets locked.
The glovebox or console is asking to get robbed.
it takes 30 seconds to jimmy a door, 1 second to hit the glass with a brick.
By the time you get out... the thief is either gone or has YOUR gun in your face.
Leaving it in the glovebox is a BAD idea.


Jim
 
The 50% antifreeze in the coolent doesn't freeze.
It soaks into the carpet and stays there.

It's the 50% water in the coolent that evaporates and freezes on everything inside the car when the heater starts warming things up.

rc.


Then the 50% water in your engine would freeze and the 50% antifreeze wouldn't. Also all the water would leave as steam from the overflow bottle when the coolant cycles in and out. I think they're pretty tough to separate. Anyways, I think he would've had quite a mess in the glove box and told us.
 
You have a backpack and a concealed permit? Then unless there are metal detectors and searches you can bring it in.

Seconded...because aren't guns not allowed on college campuses, period (therefore, if you're parking on-campus, you're still breaking the rules anyway)? Or am I wrong on this?

(Or as someone once told me in reference to carrying in church--"If I feel I need to protect myself, I'll have my gun. Now, I'm not telling you to break the law, but I will defend my life" or something along those lines. I don't know if he was also referring to work or not.)
 
Or am I wrong on this?
The school has a tacit allowance of firearms in vehicles--they even host a gun show on campus at the gym, and are well aware that students purchase firearms there. However, about 2 years ago, someone was expelled for bringing a firearm inside of the dorm, and "won" a nice stay in the local jail; I have 3 semesters left, I'm not planning on having wasted quite a bit of my folk's money.

The only reason the firearm's currently in the glovebox is to comply with state laws. That being said, I'm already looking into a method for more secure storage that will fit/install into my vehicle.
 
Sorry everyone is bustin your chops on this and not trying to offer any help, so I will try. I understand that the only option is leave it in the car. It is collecting moisture in the car, so thats the porblem. It comes down to the moisture. I would try putting a bunch of sillica packs in the glove box or even a pack of Rem Dri. I use it in my big safe at home and it works well. Good luck.
 
Well, leaving it in the car isn't the best option but in answer to your question about ice/frost on the gun. I used to take a silicone impregnated cloth that I use to wipe down my pistol on a bi-weekly basis. If I was uncertain about the climate then I just cleaned the pistol really well with a light lubricant like Breakfree CLP and douse the cloth liberally with a can of silicone spray. I then lightly wrapped the silicone impregnated cloth arount my pistol and stored it in a gun storage bag like Bianichi Blue. That should keep the moisture off of your pistol.
Now, for leaving in your car. Is your gun a pistol or a revolver? I would field strip it and take the slide and barrel with me. That way, if the car is broken into the thief doesn't get the whole weapon. I would personally look into another method of storing your weapon. Cars are easy targets, no matter how visable they are. You need to harden the car and move the weapon to another location within the car. Spend the time to be creative and make it so the car can't be moved either. The best option is to store the weapon away from the car altogether. Is there a local range near you? Most places can arrange storage for a small fee and you can pick it up on the way out of town.
Good Luck!
 
If you can Control the Rate of the Firearm Warming Up you will Decrease the Condensation Buildup.

Put it in a container (safe) Behind the Seat or far away as you can get from source of heat. Near the Floor is best (Heat rises) Then the Temp Will be more Gradual in the Container (safe).

Plus The lube thing previously mentioned.
Note: The Glove compartment is very Close to Heating Ducts! and in many Cases so is the Heater Core!!
 
Eightball,
Like has been said, move the gun to a different place in the SUV or add desicant, lots of desicant. When i was in school and most places I have worked, a gun in a vehicle parked in the building's lot was illegal.
As a state employee even a beer in my truck parked in a government lot would get me canned, much less a gun.
My recommendation is to move off campus if you can afford it. Keep the gun inside except when you are driving anywhere except onto campus.
Legally, I cannot even pick up my daughter at College if I have a gun in my vehicle and have to go onto the campus.
Not trying to "bust your chops", just a recommendation.
 
I like the idea that one poster had - field strip it and take the slide with you into the dorm. Or if it's a revolver, take the cylinder if it's not too much trouble to take it off.
 
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