I'd like a new rifle or barrel for long range, 1k and further. Who's?

[gun'sRgood]

I hear worse than good for my 6.5cm carbon fiber barrel. I don't want to build a new rifle and I'm guessing that you can order what parts you want, not that I know what I want, from custom shops. It seems like the 6.5cm is no longer the cat's meow and some variant of a 6 is more desirable. However, I have a lot, well to me, of 6.5cm reloading, eh, stuff. Pounds and pounds of powder, 500 lots of Berger match 140's, Redding everything and so on. But I'm not opposed to looking at a 6 of some sort. So, who's barrel would you choose and/or which rifle or company would you choose? Back when I was shopping AI seemed to really have their act together. Does that hold true today?

 

[jmr40]

I'm not going to be shooting that far.

To my way of thinking the 6.5CM is a good dual purpose cartridge for guys who want to big game hunt and informally shoot at longish ranges with the same rifle. It was designed with that type of shooting in mind so you could certainly do worse. But if you need to have the very best there are better options today.

For what I do it is a very good choice.

 

[LoonWulf]

I hear worse than good for my 6.5cm carbon fiber barrel. I don't want to build a new rifle and I'm guessing that you can order what parts you want, not that I know what I want, from custom shops. It seems like the 6.5cm is no longer the cat's meow and some variant of a 6 is more desirable. However, I have a lot, well to me, of 6.5cm reloading, eh, stuff. Pounds and pounds of powder, 500 lots of Berger match 140's, Redding everything and so on. But I'm not opposed to looking at a 6 of some sort. So, who's barrel would you choose and/or which rifle or company would you choose? Back when I was shopping AI seemed to really have their act together. Does that hold true today?

From the pictures im remembering, your guns got a proof barrel on it. Is it shooting poorly now?
If your happy with it and how the gun handles you could always have another one of those spun on.

Ive got about 1000rnds on the Xcal barrel of my 6.5 and it's still shooting well, and I bought it used with who knows how many rounds on it. Ive had Shilen, and ErShaw barrels, as well as Christensen Carbons, and all have shot well.

 

[1KPerDay]

You HEAR bad things? How does it shoot?

 

[Varminterror]

6mm’s are the caliber of choice for PRS competition because of their low recoil and high aerodynamic efficiency. 6.5 creed remains viable for 1000yrd shooting, it’s just not the best choice for the context of PRS competition. If you’re shooting from a bench or prone, 6.5 creed has a bit more drop at 1000yrds, but virtually the same wind drift as 6 creed, and offers about twice the barrel life. If you’re shooting PAST 1200yrds, the big BC’s of the 6.5’s start paying back more and more.

The good news about choosing a 6 creed - if you don’t love it, you’ll be able to choose something else within a year, because the barrel will be roasted.

I use Bartlein and Proof Research barrels for my match rifles - they shoot crazy small, with no fuss.

Looking at your photos, if I recall, you have a Defiance Tenacity in an MPA chassis - you won’t buy a rifle which willingly shoots smaller without building a custom benchrest rifle. If you don’t like the balance of your carbon fiber barrel on that rifle, throw on a steel barrel in 6.5 creed and party on.

 

[C-grunt]

I've shot my 6.5 Creedmoor put to 1800 yards. It's it the best cartridge past 1200 yards? Definitely no. But to really start seeing a jump in performance at that distance you'll be shooting magnums.

 

[gun'sRgood]

I'm not going to be shooting that far.

To my way of thinking the 6.5CM is a good dual purpose cartridge for guys who want to big game hunt and informally shoot at longish ranges with the same rifle. It was designed with that type of shooting in mind so you could certainly do worse. But if you need to have the very best there are better options today.

For what I do it is a very good choice.

Eh? Naw. A paper shooter is not a hunter and a hunter is not a paper shooter. Yeah their both 6.5cm's but that's about it.

 

[gun'sRgood]

From the pictures im remembering, your guns got a proof barrel on it. Is it shooting poorly now?
If your happy with it and how the gun handles you could always have another one of those spun on.

Ive got about 1000rnds on the Xcal barrel of my 6.5 and it's still shooting well, and I bought it used with who knows how many rounds on it. Ive had Shilen, and ErShaw barrels, as well as Christensen Carbons, and all have shot well.

It's not a proof, but you're correct in that it does indeed look like one. It's carbon fiber barrels in general. The last world class shoot off I watched had only steel barrels. And they were all a 6 variant. I am not saying that If I had a hot shot 6 barrel that I'd be any better with the sport. I guess I want only myself to blame for crappy shooting. Thx, nice choices!

 

[gun'sRgood]

You HEAR bad things? How does it shoot?

I think I could do better. But, and there's always buts, This is factory ammo and I don't think you really see what's happening until you stretch it out.

 

[JFrank]

Hard to get a bad Krieger barrel, that’s all I use at the moment.

 

[1KPerDay]

View attachment 1133589 View attachment 1133590 I think I could do better. But, and there's always buts, This is factory ammo and I don't think you really see what's happening until you stretch it out.

Garbage. Better replace it

 

[gun'sRgood]

6mm’s are the caliber of choice for PRS competition because of their low recoil and high aerodynamic efficiency. 6.5 creed remains viable for 1000yrd shooting, it’s just not the best choice for the context of PRS competition. If you’re shooting from a bench or prone, 6.5 creed has a bit more drop at 1000yrds, but virtually the same wind drift as 6 creed, and offers about twice the barrel life. If you’re shooting PAST 1200yrds, the big BC’s of the 6.5’s start paying back more and more.

The good news about choosing a 6 creed - if you don’t love it, you’ll be able to choose something else within a year, because the barrel will be roasted.

I use Bartlein and Proof Research barrels for my match rifles - they shoot crazy small, with no fuss.

Looking at your photos, if I recall, you have a Defiance Tenacity in an MPA chassis - you won’t buy a rifle which willingly shoots smaller without building a custom benchrest rifle. If you don’t like the balance of your carbon fiber barrel on that rifle, throw on a steel barrel in 6.5 creed and party on.

Dang dude! You truly rule! How about, "The Veminterror " web site for everything there is to know about shooting! Off topic, but, You do anything with pistols? Oh yeah, Humor, that's rare in your posts. Keep that up. The guy who built my gun had the sentiment of, "If your not changing barrels, your not shooting enough!"

 

[gun'sRgood]

Garbage. Better replace it

Thanks! Still laughing. I find I'm a great source of material to laugh at!

 

[Varminterror]

Off topic, but, You do anything with pistols?

Yes, but not as much as I used to.

 

[WVRJ]

I think in a lot of cases,the carbon barrels don't shoot quite as small as the steel barrels because they're a good bit lighter in weight.Shooting form becomes more critical as the weight out front gets lighter.I've had excellent results with Shilen prechambered barrels,especially their Select Match.A shooting buddy just had a BAT action done up with a Brux barrel and it's impressive.He actually had 2 barrels done up alike so when the first one goes,he's got one fitted up and ready to go.I shot a 3 shot cloverleaf with that rifle at 300 yards,and his groups at that distance are usually well under an inch,with most of the holes touching each other.There are several barrel makers that are making great stuff,we do live in a great era for accurate rifles.What was once nearly impossible to do is the norm nowadays.

 

[gun'sRgood]

Yes, but not as much as I used to.

Not sure how to get ahold of you to ask, but as I highly respect your opinion, I'd like to ask you your thoughts on Brux barrels. It's to replace my current carbon fiber on a 6.5CM. Thx. Sorry if this is not an appropriate way to ask.

 

[LoonWulf]

Not sure how to get ahold of you to ask, but as I highly respect your opinion, I'd like to ask you your thoughts on Brux barrels. It's to replace my current carbon fiber on a 6.5CM. Thx. Sorry if this is not an appropriate way to ask.

Hell probably see this, but you could always send a pm or if youd like any user to see a notification about you mentioning them you can use @ and then their username

 

[JFrank]

Not sure how to get ahold of you to ask, but as I highly respect your opinion, I'd like to ask you your thoughts on Brux barrels. It's to replace my current carbon fiber on a 6.5CM. Thx. Sorry if this is not an appropriate way to ask.

Brux are high quality barrels with cut riflings.

 

[gun'sRgood]

Brux are high quality barrels with cut riflings.

thx. Appreciations

 

[lightman]

I hear worse than good for my 6.5cm carbon fiber barrel. I don't want to build a new rifle and I'm guessing that you can order what parts you want, not that I know what I want, from custom shops. It seems like the 6.5cm is no longer the cat's meow and some variant of a 6 is more desirable. However, I have a lot, well to me, of 6.5cm reloading, eh, stuff. Pounds and pounds of powder, 500 lots of Berger match 140's, Redding everything and so on. But I'm not opposed to looking at a 6 of some sort. So, who's barrel would you choose and/or which rifle or company would you choose? Back when I was shopping AI seemed to really have their act together. Does that hold true today?

If you are that heavily invested in the CM thats probably what I would go back with. Although most of your components could be sold for what you have invested in them.

Most any of the custom barrels would serve you well. You might browse some on the AccurateShooter.com website. Lots of info on actions, barrels, ect on there.

Hard to get a bad Krieger barrel, that’s all I use at the moment.

I like Krieger too. I have and have had several and would not hesitate to buy another.

 

[JFrank]

If you are that heavily invested in the CM thats probably what I would go back with. Although most of your components could be sold for what you have invested in them.

Most any of the custom barrels would serve you well. You might browse some on the AccurateShooter.com website. Lots of info on actions, barrels, ect on there.


I like Krieger too. I have and have had several and would not hesitate to buy another.

Currently it’s a 16 month wait for a Krieger order to be filled.
I’ve decided to pick up blanks wherever I can from whoever has them in stock.
Other quality brands are.
Bartlien
Brux
Lederer
Hawk Hill
Lilja
Criterion
Douglas

 

[LoonWulf]

Ive had and been very happy with a Criterion barrel. Ive also been very happy with the X-cal barrel on my long range rifle. The Shilens ive had were also really nice.
90% of mine have been Shaws tho simply because they are cheap, and have so far been plenty accurate for what i need.......little low end for this discussion tho.

 

[Varminterror]

There was a time where if you ordered a custom barrel with a name which started with a "B," you knew you were getting a hot ticket... Brux, Broughton, Bartlein, Benchmark... We saw Lilja, Krieger, Hart, and Shilen rounding out a fleet of elite barrel makers with the "B" boys...

Personally, I've never owned a Brux, and I might not ever - but they'd be on a relatively short list of barrel makers I'd willingly give my money. I buy Bartleins and Proofs every year now, and I just ordered a CRB from Austin Orgain (he purchased the equipment from and was trained by Hawk Hill Barrels). I'm happy. My barrels shoot smaller than I need, and I'm happy.

 

[Varminterror]

Hawk Hill

HH is no longer making barrels - Austin Orgain (winningest PRS shooter ever) bought HH's barrel line and has rebranded them as "Custom Rifle Barrels," aka, CRB. I've seen results from two smiths with these, and he's living up to Hawk Hill's reputation very well.

 

[JFrank]

I didn’t know HH had sold out, I should have just referred to the equipment list from the last Nationals I attended. Light gun and Heavy gun are near identical.

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