Identifying S&W revolver

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Morning all, had a question that I am hoping to find answers to. I have been looking at some old S&W revolvers, but I have a hard time nailing down what exact model they are. This one is a S&W M&P 38. Special with a 6 1/2 inch barrel, five screw. Seller says it was made in 1908, but that usually doesn't mean what model num it is. Any clues? (Also, would it be safe enough to shoot modern 38. Special rounds through it? No +P's, I know) S&W 2.jpg S&W.jpg
 
These were made before S&W began using the "model numbering" system- in this case "M&P Model of 1905" is the model. This weapon would eventually become the M10.:D

If the gun is dated correctly, this would be before S&W began heat treating the cylinder (1919-1920), and some folks won't shoot modern factory loads in them.

I would definitely have it inspected by a qualified gunsmith before attempting to shoot it at all!
 
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The concave circle with no S&W medallion stocks were used from 1904 to 1910. Assuming the stocks in the picture are original to the gun, that would be the time period in which it was produced. The serial number of the gun should be inscribed on the right hand stock panel. These guns were produced for use with .38 Special cartridges using smokeless powder. As such, it is perfectly acceptable to use standard pressure .38 Special ammunition in them. This further assumes the gun is in good mechanical condition. Keep the loads mild, using either 158 grain lead round nose bullets, or target wadcutter ammo.

Nightlord is correct in stating it is a "Model of 1905". To go a bit further, depending on serial number, it could be a Model of 1905 3rd Model, Model of 1905 1st Change, or Model of 1905 2nd Change. The 6 1/2" barrel was no longer offered on the Model of 1905 3rd Change beginning in 1909. The 1st and 2nd Change serial numbers ranged from 73251 to 146899, and were made from 1906 to 1909. Most 2nd Change models had two dowel pins in the cylinder with two holes in the extractor star to insure proper alignment of the extractor. This information was taken from the "Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson" 4th edition, by Supica and Nahas. Hope it helps.
 
The concave circle with no S&W medallion stocks were used from 1904 to 1910. Assuming the stocks in the picture are original to the gun, that would be the time period in which it was produced. The serial number of the gun should be inscribed on the right hand stock panel. These guns were produced for use with .38 Special cartridges using smokeless powder. As such, it is perfectly acceptable to use standard pressure .38 Special ammunition in them. This further assumes the gun is in good mechanical condition. Keep the loads mild, using either 158 grain lead round nose bullets, or target wadcutter ammo.

Nightlord is correct in stating it is a "Model of 1905". To go a bit further, depending on serial number, it could be a Model of 1905 3rd Model, Model of 1905 1st Change, or Model of 1905 2nd Change. The 6 1/2" barrel was no longer offered on the Model of 1905 3rd Change beginning in 1909. The 1st and 2nd Change serial numbers ranged from 73251 to 146899, and were made from 1906 to 1909. Most 2nd Change models had two dowel pins in the cylinder with two holes in the extractor star to insure proper alignment of the extractor. This information was taken from the "Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson" 4th edition, by Supica and Nahas. Hope it helps.

Thank you for all the helpful info. It may be a little longer before I can get one of these neat revolvers, as it looks like I will have to sink that cash into a gun safe now (Gotta love those new gun laws...)
 
Thank you for all the helpful info. It may be a little longer before I can get one of these neat revolvers, as it looks like I will have to sink that cash into a gun safe now (Gotta love those new gun laws...)
The good news is old S&Ws basically last forever so there will plenty around when you are ready!:)
 
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