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Identity and Date of Manufacture of S&W Revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Brian Williams, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Woodlander

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    Thanks a lot, Radagast !
     
  2. berettaprofessor

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    Radagast, can I assume a Model 63 purchased new with a serial number of CTK7663 is a 2012 gun? Thanks.
     
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    Yep, but because it is so new a call to S&W customer service should give you the year it shipped with.
     
  4. cwl1862

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    A couple of model 66 & a 64 snubs to date.

    a) 357 Magnum
    b) 2.5
    c) RB
    d) 6
    e) ADJ
    f) ABJ84xx
    g) 66-2

    a) 357 Magnum
    b) 2.5
    c) RB
    d) 6
    e) ADJ
    f) 6K885xx
    g) 66-0

    a) 38 spl
    b) 3 inch
    c) RB
    d) 6
    e) fixed
    f) 7D798xx
    g) 64-3

    Thanks in advance for your help & yea I've got a thing for K frames......... Well I've got a thing for older Smiths anyway..
     
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    cwl1862:
    Model 66-2 Combat Magnum Stainless: Late 1982.
    Model 66 no dash = 1975.
    Model 64-3 .38 Military & Police Stainless: 1981.
     
  6. hdgapeach

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    Evening folks. Newbie here. Been sifting through some of dad's handguns and would like to run this one by y'all to decipher, if you don't mind.

    a) 38 S&W Special Ctg
    b) 4"
    c) Square
    d) 6 shot
    e) fixed sights
    f) V130571
    g) ain't gotta clue

    Other possible pertinent info: pinned barrel, right side of barrel - "38 S & W SPECIAL CTG", 3 exposed screws on right side (with, I imagine, one more under the grip), square butt, with the cylinder open and looking in the yoke area there's a "U" and under that there's "778 9 0", the face of the cylinder is non-recessed and has "130570" stamped into it.

    All pertinent info dealing with this firearm would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks.

    NEW info noticed (eyes getting old): Faint "flamming bomb" indention on very edge of butt near the serial number. Patent dates on top of barrel - Smith & Wesson Springfield Mass. U.S.A Patented Feb. 6. 06. Sept. 14. 08. Dec. 29. 14
     
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  7. Radagast
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    hdgapeach:
    You have a Victory Model manufactured in 1941 or 1942. This was a military finish version of the .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Change, 1914 Patent dates refer to the 4th design change. This was a predecessor to the modern Model 10. There is no Model number stamped on it as S&W did not use model numbers before 1957.
    In 1941 when the serial stamping machine clicked over at 999999 S&W started again at 1, but adding a V prefix. Hence Victory Model.
    The flaming bomb is US ordnance acceptance mark. The numbers on/under the yoke are assembly numbers, used to track parts in the factory. The number on the cylinder face is normally the serial number, duplicated without the V. As it is one off I would guess they were swapped at the factory or during maintenance. There may also be the serial number with a B prefix on the underside of the barrel.
    If in mint to very good condition there is some collectors interest in these, but they do not bring big bucks.
    Caveat! The gun lacks the positive internal hammer block safety introduced in 1944 after a fatality with a dropped gun. Treat it as a five shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
    It should safe to shoot with any standard pressure or PlusP .38 special loads.
    There should be a screw in the frame in front of the trigger guard, making it a five screw gun.
     
  8. marv

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    a. .38 spec
    b. 4 in.
    c. round butt
    d. 6 shot
    e. fixed sights
    f. BKZ539x
    g. 10-10
     
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    marv:

    Your Model 10-10 dates to February or March 1992.
     
  10. hdgapeach

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    Radagast,

    All I can say is, "WOW"! Thanks so much. I knew dad had an eye for guns but I'd never imagined he was that savy. By the way, the cylinder number does match the serial number (more evidence of old eyes). Most of all, thanks for the alert about loading no ammo under the hammer. We probably won't be loading and firing this one since it's in such good condition. I'll probably look into having it appraised. I did finally notice the 5th screw right where you said it was.

    This is about as cool as it can get!!

    Thanks!
     
  11. brightonmike

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    Hi guys newbie here. Here's what I have

    a) 22 lr
    b) 4"
    c) square
    d) 6
    e) adjustable
    f) K 75xxx
    g) no model number

    Thanks
     
  12. marv

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    Thanks, Radagast
     
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    brightonmike:
    You have a K22 Combat Masterpiece manufactured in manufactured in 1949. This was the first year of production. If in very good condition with the original grips it will bring a premium from a collector.
    In 1957 the K22 Combat Masterpiece was designated the model 18.
     
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    Thanks Radagast
     
  15. AC Orange

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    Hello -

    It's a :

    Model 60 stainless
    .38 Special
    1 7/8" bbl
    5 rounds
    fixed sights
    s/n R1571xx

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    AC Orange:
    Your Model 60 .38 Chiefs Special Stainless was manufactured in the period 1974 to 1977. Serial range for those years was R100000 to R190000.
    If I had to take a guess at the actual year I would say 1976 as production averaged around 21,000 guns a year over an 8 year period.
     
  17. The Doc

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    a) caliber - .32 S&W Long
    b) bbl length - 2in
    c) grips shape - square
    d) number of shots/cylinder bores - 6
    e) type of sights - fixed
    f) serial number - AFK 99XX
    g) Model number - 31-1

    thanks.
     
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    Thanks for your quick reply Radagast. The '76 manufacture date sounds about right as I bought the gun new in late Fall of '76. I always assumed it's DOB was '76, although many years later the s/n did not seem to precisely nail it down.

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  19. KingMedicine

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    Okay, so this one might not make any sense... but im going on the info he gave me... I actually dont get the gun in my hands until Monday, but apparently shes only been shot 20 times and left in a safe... Its a older family friend, so his eyes could be a bit off.

    Model 36
    Chief Special
    1 7/8 barrel
    Round Butt
    Marked 38 special
    S/N 12XXX

    That Serial Number sounds waaaay too young for a 36 to me, but i have no real idea... Any clue? He might have forgot a number and it might be 12XXXX
     
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    A) .357 Magnum
    B) 4 Inch Barrel
    C) Unsure what kind of Grips. (This is my first revolver.) It has a Hogue Monogrip rubber grip.
    D) 6 Shot
    E) Adjustable sights with a bladed front. It has an orange part on the blade.
    F) S&W 686-2

    The Serial Number is AYV9XXX or I believe it to be as it was right above the model number under the cylinder.

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    Autolycus:
    Your Model 686-2 Distinguished Combat Magnum Stainless was manufactured in 1987.
    You are correct about the serial number, you will also find it on the bottom of the grip frame under the grips.
    The serial number is not always duplicated under the cylinder yoke, but on most modern guns it is.
     
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    KingMedicine:
    The Model 36 designation was used from 1957 on. A serial number in the 12xxx range would be from 1952. in the 12xxxx range 1957 or 1958.
    So if he has left a digit off then 1957/58.
    If he has left a J prefix off then its from 1969.

    Or the number being quoted may be an assembly number taken from under the cylinder yoke and has no meaning at all. The serial number is always found on the bottom flat of the grip frame, it is sometime duplicated under the cylinder yoke, sometimes the numbers there are assembly numbers used to track parts in the factory.
     
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    The Doc:
    Your Model 31-1 .32 Regulation Police wad manufactured in 1984. The -1 refers to a change from the small I frame to the current J frame.
     
  24. KingMedicine

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    Haha.. Yeah, that serial number was the part number on the crane. The actual serial number is AYP45XX.

    Thanks again for your work.
     
  25. chhodge69

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    a) 38 spl
    b) 4"
    c) sq?
    d) 6
    e) fixed
    f) BNR-34xx
    g) 10-10

    thanks!

    ps: can I shoot +p from this gun safely?

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