if .38 spl works in .357mag...
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Jim Watson
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No.
9mm, assuming you mean 9mm Luger, is an entirely different cartridge, rimless and tapered, not interchangeable.
9mm, assuming you mean 9mm Luger, is an entirely different cartridge, rimless and tapered, not interchangeable.
Umm...
No. Well, sort of. Of course, the 9MM is .355", compared to the .357" for the 38 Special. There have been revolvers made that have multiple cylinders, including a cylinder for 38 Special and a cylinder for 9MM. The 9MM cylinder required moon clips, for the stated observation that it is a rimless cartridge. Obviously, the 9MM are rattling down the barrel .002" loose.
Don't know of one currently being produced.
No. Well, sort of. Of course, the 9MM is .355", compared to the .357" for the 38 Special. There have been revolvers made that have multiple cylinders, including a cylinder for 38 Special and a cylinder for 9MM. The 9MM cylinder required moon clips, for the stated observation that it is a rimless cartridge. Obviously, the 9MM are rattling down the barrel .002" loose.
Don't know of one currently being produced.
Actually, there are revolvers that will fire the whole range of .38 caliber ammo.
Like this one:
http://www.cadco.com/firearms/pri.htm
And according to an interview on Tom Gresham's Gun Talk, Taurus will be releasing their "Triad" revolver line that will shoot .357, .38 Special, and 9mm.
hillbilly
Like this one:
http://www.cadco.com/firearms/pri.htm
And according to an interview on Tom Gresham's Gun Talk, Taurus will be releasing their "Triad" revolver line that will shoot .357, .38 Special, and 9mm.
hillbilly
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As Grampa said, the bullet diamiter is different but the rimless cartridge is the big issue. Some of the revolvers designed to shoot rimless rounds (9mm, 40 or 45 ACP)use moon clips to make ejection easier but rounds can be fit in flush as they headspace off the bullet vs case rim. I have a Ruger Blackhawk convertable that doesn't use moonclips due to the SA type extraction. It has a 357/38 cylinder and a 9mm cyl. The 9mm cylinder shoots pretty darned good IMHO.
jeff-10
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I saw a revolver in a gun shop once that claimed to fire everything in that caliber range: 380, 9mm Makarov, 9mmP, 38 Super, 38 Speical and .357 Magnum. It was called a Medusa or something, looked kind of odd.
MrTuffPaws
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The madusa does not shoot 9mm Makarov. 9mm Mak is actually 9.2mm
It does shoot the rest of the 38, 357, 9mm etc.
It does shoot the rest of the 38, 357, 9mm etc.
BluesBear
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I had the luxury of shooting two Medusa revolvers a few years back.
One was a genuine Phillips & Rodgers Model 47 and the other was a S&W Model 27 that had been retrofitted with a Medusa cylinder.
It was an interesting demonstration. Yes they did chamber, fire and extract .380, .38S&W, .38 Short Colt, .38 Long Colt, 9mm Luger, 38 Largo, .38 Super, 9x23mm, .38 Special, .357 Magnum and even 9mm Win Mag.
(and perhaps even a few more obscure ones that I can't remember)
Point of aim varied but accuracy seemed acceptable.
But I have never seen such a conglomeration of bulged, blackened and deformed cartridge cases in my life.
HELLO!!!
There is a reason that they make separate loading dies for those calibers.
THEY AIN'T ALL THE SAME!
Perhaps in a SHTF/EOTWAWKI scenario it might be good for those Mad-Max types roaming the countryside scrounging ammunition but I prefer that my ammunition properly fit my firearms.
It amazes me that people will in one breath say something like, "You better not fire .38 Specials in that rechambered WWII .38-200 S&W M&P. The cases will split and you'll blow your eye out." But in the next breath they'll remark, "Oh the Medusa is so COOL. You can shoot ANYTHING in it."
But then, perhaps it's just me.
Maybe I have a warped sense of safety or something.
One was a genuine Phillips & Rodgers Model 47 and the other was a S&W Model 27 that had been retrofitted with a Medusa cylinder.
It was an interesting demonstration. Yes they did chamber, fire and extract .380, .38S&W, .38 Short Colt, .38 Long Colt, 9mm Luger, 38 Largo, .38 Super, 9x23mm, .38 Special, .357 Magnum and even 9mm Win Mag.
(and perhaps even a few more obscure ones that I can't remember)
Point of aim varied but accuracy seemed acceptable.
But I have never seen such a conglomeration of bulged, blackened and deformed cartridge cases in my life.
HELLO!!!
There is a reason that they make separate loading dies for those calibers.
THEY AIN'T ALL THE SAME!
Perhaps in a SHTF/EOTWAWKI scenario it might be good for those Mad-Max types roaming the countryside scrounging ammunition but I prefer that my ammunition properly fit my firearms.
It amazes me that people will in one breath say something like, "You better not fire .38 Specials in that rechambered WWII .38-200 S&W M&P. The cases will split and you'll blow your eye out." But in the next breath they'll remark, "Oh the Medusa is so COOL. You can shoot ANYTHING in it."
But then, perhaps it's just me.
Maybe I have a warped sense of safety or something.
While you can't use 9mm x 19 (Luger) cartridges in a regular .357 Magnum revolver (excluding those with interchangeable cylinders) Taurus is going to offer a new revolver called the Triad that will chamber and fire 9mm, .38 Special, and .357 Magnum in the same cylinder. Moonclips will be required when shooting the 9mm, and I expect that .357 and .38 brass will be slightly bluged at the base.
I for one, am one of the 'people' who think the Medusa revolver is an interesting concept and shooting .38 specials in a converted .38 S&W can be dangerous.
The difference between the two is apples and oranges.
The Medusa is product designed and product built to safely accomodate a large variety of different calibers.
Most converted .38 S&W revolvers were done at a skill level just above that of 'Bubba'.
The difference between the two is apples and oranges.
The Medusa is product designed and product built to safely accomodate a large variety of different calibers.
Most converted .38 S&W revolvers were done at a skill level just above that of 'Bubba'.
Sir Aardvark
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Ruger has a couple models in current production.
.357 and 9mm -
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdResults?function=famid&famid=13
.357 and 9mm -
http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdResults?function=famid&famid=13
CAS700850
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My uncle has a Ruger Blackhawk with both .357 and 9mm cylanders. Don't need the moon clips, as the rounds headspace on the case mouth. Not the most accurate gun I've ever seen, but a lot of fun, and the ammo is cheap.
13.45
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the Ruger Blackhawk Convertible is a great pistol. as mentioned above, it allows all three rounds to be fired by swapping cylinders (a very easy process)
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The 9mm cylinder for the Ruger Blackhawk convertible has shoulders inside to locate the 9mm rounds in the cylinder.
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