If Clinton/Clark run, will you vote for Bush?

[seeker_two]

With Wesley Clark's entry into the Demon-Rat Free-For-All, many politicoes think that he'll run away w/ the nomination. The same politicoes also think that, if Clark is nominated, he'll step to #2 so Hillary can run.

As bad a job as Bush has done in some areas (Patriot Act, Campaign Finance Reform, TSA, etc.), would the entrance of Clark and Hillary be enough for you to vote for Bush? Would you vote for another candidate in the general election (third party)? Or would you just stay at home?

Just curious...

 

[jsalcedo]

Rumsfeld and Cheney are worth re-electing Bush.

I am also happy with my tax cut and the fact that no new gun control legislation has been passed since "W" was elected in that "ficticious" election.

 

[Mark Tyson]

I think Clark's starting too late in the race to be an effective candidate. Wierd how here in the US the presidential election starts so early, isn't it?

But for me it all depends on The Ban . If Bush renews the AWB I don't care if he's running against Mao Zedong - I will not vote for him.

 

[Standing Wolf]

I'll never even consider voting for representatives of the Democratic (sic) party: I don't ever support anti-Second Amendment bigotry.

 

[cordex]

As of now, no.
If the new AWB is passed and he vetoes it (I know ... he already said he will sign it if it lands on his desk) then I might consider giving him a vote, but right now it is very doubtful.

Very little that he's done or encouraged fits well with my ethic. So third-party will probably get my vote.

 

[longeyes]

Clinton, Clark, or Clinton-Clark, it doesn't matter: that way lies Hell.

I have issues with Bush--who doesn't?--and some aren't small ones either,
but to not vote for Bush is effectively a vote for imminent social
chaos, in my opinion. Maybe with Bush we are only buying time, but of
all the things you can buy, that may well be the most valuable.

 

[Bruce H]

Watch this one carefully. Wesley Clark is a Bill Clinton clone without the baggage. Look for him and Hillary to run together. This will turn out like the Arnold for governor CF. All symbolism and very little substance. The gee whiz they are celeberities will cover their lack of platform with a lot of people. This pair are dangerous.

 

[cordex]

to not vote for Bush is effectively a vote for imminent social
chaos

A vote for Bush is the most obvious approval of his actions while in office that a citizen can show. I don't, so I won't.
Won't matter anyway. Indiana has gone Republican for President since '64 and I see no great change on the horizon.

Bush pushed for limiting civil liberties through forcing the Patriot Acts through congress. He added unnecessary federal agencies and expanded their authority.
No thanks. I don't like that, I don't want any more. The least I can do is tell him (and Republicans as a whole) as much through my vote.

 

[Ian]

If Bush signs the Patriot Act or the new AW ban, there's no way I will vote for him. And since he already signed the Patriot Act...

 

[Hkmp5sd]

Not only Bush...

I'd vote for Al Sharpton before I voted to allow another Klinton in the White House.

 

[Zip06]

Listen to you guys. Sure GW has warts but do you think that a Democrat, any Democrat, would be an improvement.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

do you think that a Democrat, any Democrat, would be an improvement.

This has been discussed in other threads, but if GWB signs a new AW ban, in my opinion he is not an improvement over a Democrat. I will not vote for him simply because he "is the only choice we have."

The only way we can get the upper hand in this gun control battle is to have a president that is as adamant about the issue as we are. We need a president that not only won't sign new gun bans, but will actively work to remove the bans currently in place. The only way to accomplish that is to give the republicans a wake-up call that we will not support them simple because they are the lesser of two evils.

If it requires living 4 years with a Democrat in the White House for the republicans to get the message, so be it.

 

[longeyes]

"The only way we can get the upper hand in this gun control battle is to have a
president that is as adamant about the issue as we are. We need a president
that not only won't sign new gun bans, but will actively work to remove the bans
currently in place. The only way to accomplish that is to give the republicans a
wake-up call that we will not support them simple because they are the lesser of
two evils."

That is going to take the right ruling from the Supreme Court, and
that is why a) we need Bush to win and b) we need to pressure him to
make the right judicial appointments.

What other viable candidate is out there who has any hope of being
President any time soon? Condi Rice? By '08 the game could be up, and
a lot of us will either be in exile or we'll be taking our anti-aggression
meds or elections will be a thing of the past with a rightwing or leftwing
junta in there.

 

[JoshM]

Scary Thought

In a H Clinton/Clark administration where does Bill Clinton fit in ?


U.S. Ambassador to the UN ?

Secretary of State ?

U.S. government candidate for the position of UN Secretary General ?

 

[RobW]

That is going to take the right ruling from the Supreme Court, and

We had it, don't we? Where was the support, the fight for the appointee?

Politicians

 

[Atticus]

Will I vote for Bush? Yes...twice.

 

[Hkmp5sd]

If the law is not on the books, the Supreme Court has nothing to rule on. For example, if we can get a congress and president to do away with the '86 machinegun ban, there is no need for the Supreme Court to make a ruling on whether or not a machinegun is included in the Second Amendment.

Trying to get a Supreme Court to actually hear a case on the legality of the machinegun ban or any other Yea/Nay Second Amendment case is virtually impossible. They have no desire to make a ruling that enforces the Second Amendment as written, overturning every firearm restriction in the country.

 

[Zip06]

Charles Moose does (respect Hilly).

 

[Moparmike]

Hillary will run in '08. It will be much easier for her to win with out the uphill battle of an incumbent.

That said, I will only vote for Dubbya if and only if I think that the LP candidate is a complete and utter '****.

 

[CZ 75 BD]

IF...

a new AWB gets to W's desk, and IF if signs it, I would vote for someone else. None of the Dems, though. The key for me (as many have said here) is for the AWB not to reach the president's desk!

 

[Chris Rhines]

I'm not voting for Bush, no way, no how. That's long since been decided.

Right now, it's a toss-up between third-party and stay at home and do something productive on election day. It's unlikely that there will be anyone worth voting for in Maryland.

- Chris

 

[Dilettante]

I must not be paying attention, because I never heard that there was a serious chance of Hillary running this time around. Let alone that Clark was supposed to move over and let her be the top man.
How long has this idea been floating around? When did you first hear of it?

By the way -- if that really happened I would vote for Bush in a heartbeat. (I probably will anyway, unless we find out that the Democratic nominee is much more pro-defense than most of them sound.)

 

[Doctor Wu]

Probably third party, since Bush will carry my area easily.
If it were close, I would vote for Bush, just to keep those demorats out of the Oval Office.

 

[MicroBalrog]

Vote Clark.

 

[Ala Dan]

My vote? There ain't but one person on the ballot~

George W. Bush

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member