If Glocks are so wonderful why so many generations?

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In the early days (probably around the time the earth was formed) handgunners were introduced to the Glock 17. What a wonder it was. It was frozen, packed with mud and fired without cleaning, ran over, thrown out of aircraft. The careers of a legion of gun writers started with trying make this beast malfunction.

And the world of semi-auto handguns would never be the same.

But if the beast is so good why do we have four generations on it now? Are there problems with the previous three generations that needed to be corrected or are the "improvements" just hype to create more sales?
 
Glocks are Glocks. Polymer allows the addition of lower rails, changeable back straps, different colors, different textures, etc. Bottom line, you can sell more guns if you give people the options they seem to want. What generation 1911 are we on?
 
You could ask the same question about the 1911, the various CZs, or even some of the Browning Hi-Powers. But, only if you're a dyed-in-the-wool 1911, CZ, or BHP hater.
 
Bottom line, you can sell more guns if you give people the options they seem to want.

You can sell a lot of anything if you have a popular brand and bring out something new every once in a while.

Apple Computers has made that their business model...
 
If Glocks are so wonderful why so many generations?

They are wonderful, but they should have stopped at Gen3.

Are there problems with the previous three generations that needed to be corrected or are the "improvements" just hype to create more sales?

Hype to create more sales.
 
Just a wild guess. The frames are made by casting the polymer in a mold. Molds wear out and have to be replaced after a time. If you have to replace the mold anyway,why not make the new one slightly different. It may, or my not be an improvement, but it will help sell guns. Internally there have been very few changes in the different Glock generations, mainly just different shapes to the frame.

The auto industry does the same thing. When the dies that stamp out car body panels wear out they change the body shape to sell more new cars. Often the running gear, frame etc. remains the same.
 
On top of the nift idea that the molds need changed and the might as well be some kind of improvement ..
I offer the Hypothesis that there is no such thing as a perfect design, meaning that any design that never sees improvement gets old after a while.
Hells, we even came up with improved clubs, for that reason. Sure, a big stick works, but I would still rather have a nice steel Asp.
 
BSA1 said:
But if the beast is so good why do we have four generations on it now? Are there problems with the previous three generations that needed to be corrected or are the "improvements" just hype to create more sales?
For most shooters, grips on Gen1 Glocks were too slippery, especially when the palms got a little sweaty. I liked the improvements made on Gen2 Glocks to increase the grip. To better buffer the hotter loads, the recoil springs transitioned from open twisted coil to a flat captured spring - and I really welcomed this change as it improved felt recoil with heavier loads and made field stripping and reassembly much easier.

With Gen3, you got finger grooves and accessory rails, further improving grip while aiding control during rapid fire (like double taps) and means to add lights/lasers that LE/tactical customers wanted.

I do not entirely agree with Gen3 RTF/Gen3.5 RTF2 and Gen4 changes, but I think these were done in part due to the growing market competition from other manufacturers that offered better ergonomics and features like M&P and XD/M.

Although I am a fan of Glocks (especially Gen3), I think Glock is at a major crossroads in terms of losing many of their customers to competing pistol models. Glocks were "good" in the 80's and 90's but not sure if they will be "good enough" to compete in 2010's and 2020's without further refinements/improvements.

Taurus just released G2 models that come chock full of ergonomics/ambidextrous features Gen4 Glocks lack at about $200 less in price. They just about addressed all the typical complaints people have about Glocks (grip angle, ergonomics, no ambi controls, no safety, etc.). This is SERIOUS competition Glock must address to maintain their market share. I believe Glock is already working on Gen5 models, so we'll see if new Glocks are "good enough".
 
Nice Hate thread OP.How about discussing something alittle more constructive then your ignorance?
 
They just about addressed all the typical complaints people have about Glocks (grip angle, ergonomics, no ambi controls, no safety, etc.). This is SERIOUS competition Glock must address to maintain their market share. I believe Glock is already working on Gen5 models, so we'll see if new Glocks are "good enough".

I LOLed at Taurus being "serious competition" to Glock.

Serious Glock owners don't want any of those gimmick features on their pistol; that's why they have a Glock.

Also, Glock doesn't just have "market share," they own the market. There is also no "GEN5" Glock's, they can't even get the 4 to work consistently.
 
bds, glock don't need to do anything but keep making them and listen to the public that's buying them, don't drop the price just keep on gunning! we as in this forum is not going to tell the OP anything that he hasn't already heard, he just noticed he hasn't started a glock hate thread here like he's done on the other sites.
 
Tape and REAPER, you should know that I am a Glock fan but look at what happened to Beretta's market share in the 80s/90s on.

Shall I mention the competition Hyundai Sonata/Elantra offered to Toyota Camry/Corolla and Honda Accord/Civic? Who would have thought? A real competition to Toyota/Honda from a company that made the Excel?

If Glock thinks they can keep making the same pistols with small changes while ignoring vast number of customer needs/wants, someone else will fill that void. I see more and more people who would have bought Glocks ending up buying other pistol models due to small features like grip and ambi-controls.

Maybe someone else can confirm this but I believe Gen5 development is alive and well and future of Glock may depend on it.
 
but look at what happened to Beretta's market share in the 80s/90s on.

You mean the same Beretta that just sold 450,000 more M9's to the military?

If Glock thinks they can keep making the same pistols with small changes

Like M1911's? Or S&W revolvers? Or Colt SAA's (and clones?) Or Walther PPK's? Or Beretta's? Or SIG's? Or...
 
REAPER, Glock offered reliable pistols at affordable prices to the masses with some concessions to have their current market share.

I am talking about Glock's competitors tipping the scale in their favor with grip angle, grip feel, ergonomic controls, ambidextrous controls, etc. while offering similar reliability and prices (especially lower prices).

As to Beretta's market share, I am talking about civilian market share.
 
I'm sure some people want the prices to drop but I want them to go uuPPPPP, if they sold for 900$ people will still buy them just like they buy 8000$ 1911 pistols. I want them to go up because I own several and them I made a good decision, most of my guns are safe queens, I have about 20 and only 2 or three have been shot. I just keep buying them because I DO NOT KNOW! I just think it's nice to own the ones I have and some I will make nice returns and others I will have to wait a while but I won't loose I promise you that.
 
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