If it was up to you to add a marksmanship event for the 2016 Olympics?

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I would add a USPSA style match with one additional rule - NO ONE gets to see the stages until they load and make ready from behind a wall and the buzzer goes off. Shooters are sequestered in a place where they cannot see other competitors shoot the stage. No gaming. I have helped run matches like that over the years and it is always a real eye opener. When that buzzer goes off you have no idea what is on the other side of the wall. Doesn't matter if you are the first shooter on the stage or the last. Solve the problem. It will make you a better problem solver.
 
In the 1936 Summer Olympics there were three shooting events:

25 meter rapid fire pistol
50 meter free pistol
50 meter free rifle

The next Olympiad, 1948, added a 300 meter rifle, 3 position.

The next, 1952, had the following events:

300 meter rifle, 3 position
50 meter rifle, prone
25 meter rapid fire pistol
50 meter free pistol
100 meter running target
Trap

That line-up would remain until 1968, when skeet was added except that the 100 meter running was dropped in 1960.

In 1972, the full line-up of shooting events was:

300 meter, rifle, 3 position
50 meter, free pistol
25 meter, pistol, rapid fire
50 meter, rifle, running target
50 meter, rifle, prone
50 meter, rifle, 3 position
trap
skeet

In Montreal, the 300 meter 3 position was dropped. This line-up remained until 1984 when the 10 meter, air rifle was introduced.

In 1996, the 10 meter, air pistol and double trap was introduced.

In 2000 the 50 meter running target was reduced to 10 meters and the rifle used was now an air gun.

In 2004 the running target event was dropped, and the number and type of shooting events has been the same since.

I would like to see the return of the 300 meter, 3 position and/or the 50 meter running target events.

The NRA 200/300/600 yard (or 200/300/500 meter) course would be interesting, but highly unlikely...
 
Oh, and I would redo the rules for scoring the biathlon so that target hits subtract time from the course, Hits should be rewards, not just misses being a penalty.

Yeah, I know that's a Winter sport, but it sort fits the question....
 
Drail said:
I would add a USPSA style match with one additional rule - NO ONE gets to see the stages until they load and make ready from behind a wall and the buzzer goes off. Shooters are sequestered in a place where they cannot see other competitors shoot the stage. No gaming. I have helped run matches like that over the years and it is always a real eye opener. When that buzzer goes off you have no idea what is on the other side of the wall. Doesn't matter if you are the first shooter on the stage or the last. Solve the problem. It will make you a better problem solver.
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This is my vote ^
 
I'll play...

If it's only one event, your best bet is to bring back Running Target. Or either Standard Pistol (20 shots slow fire, 20 shots timed fire, 20 shots rapid fire) or Centerfire Pistol (30 shots slow fire, 30 shots "duel" fire) under the existing ISSF rule set.

Now, if I had free rein...black powder, under the MLAIC International rules. The biggest problem being that they have about a dozen events. Rifle, pistol, and shotgun - percussion, flintlock, and even matchlock.
 
Wow. I didn't think anyone would like my idea. But I would bet money the crowd would eat it up......
 
IPSC (USPSA) already has an Olympic style World Shoot every 3 years. No need to re-invent the wheel. It could be rolled into the summer Olympics as-is as another sport, and I REALLY wish it would be... but due to PC reasons, likely it will never happen. But plenty of countries already participate in the existing World Shoot.

I would add a USPSA style match with one additional rule - NO ONE gets to see the stages until they load and make ready from behind a wall and the buzzer goes off. Shooters are sequestered in a place where they cannot see other competitors shoot the stage. No gaming. I have helped run matches like that over the years and it is always a real eye opener. When that buzzer goes off you have no idea what is on the other side of the wall. Doesn't matter if you are the first shooter on the stage or the last. Solve the problem. It will make you a better problem solver.
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Someone always gets to see the stages, or will otherwise acquire info that not all the competitors have. Trying to limit stage viewing is the most certain way to make sure the event is NOT fair... unlimited stage viewing for everyone is the only way to go if you want an equitable sporting event.
 
I'd like to see an IROC-style event. Competitors are each issued a standardized weapon, drawn at random from a pool of identically-prepared weapons, no modifications other than cleaning and choice of lube. Let the gun manufacturers compete for three months after one Summer Olympics concludes to determine the weapon to be issued for the following Summer Olympics, and the weapons have to be current production. Same for ammo. Publish several possible events, with the actual event determined by the oldest participant drawing a slip from a hat - in public - at the opening ceremony of the Summer Olympics.
 
What happens when one of the "identically prepared" weapons pukes or one just so happens to have a better trigger than another?
 
Force on Force would be cool.

also, a half marathon, with close range courses (USPSA style?), mid range courses and long range courses mixed in.
Competitor would have to carry all necessary gear with them throughout the course.

Would be a time plus accuracy event.
 
Drail said:
I would add a USPSA style match with one additional rule - NO ONE gets to see the stages until they load and make ready from behind a wall and the buzzer goes off. Shooters are sequestered in a place where they cannot see other competitors shoot the stage. No gaming. I have helped run matches like that over the years and it is always a real eye opener. When that buzzer goes off you have no idea what is on the other side of the wall. Doesn't matter if you are the first shooter on the stage or the last. Solve the problem. It will make you a better problem solver.
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You can either go that way or go the Steel Challenge way where the stages don't change and competitors are able to hone their moves to razor sharpness.
 
ny32182 said:
...Someone always gets to see the stages, or will otherwise acquire info that not all the competitors have. Trying to limit stage viewing is the most certain way to make sure the event is NOT fair... unlimited stage viewing for everyone is the only way to go if you want an equitable sporting event.
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I pretty much agree. Plus why not make the stages known so the marksmen can hone themselves for the Olympics?
 
I pretty much agree. Plus why not make the stages known so the marksmen can hone themselves for the Olympics?
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Part of being a great athlete is not being great at one movement or good at one course of fire but being able to think on the fly, adapt to diversity, and be able to handle any challenge you face. Volleyball, soccer, and other sports in the olympics don't get to just hone one certain movement to perfection they have to adapt to how the other team is playing, weather conditions, and if you make a mistake. Is the better shooter the one that masters one course of fire or one that can adapt and master any course of fire on the fly?
 
Good old fashion pistol dueling! With simunition of course... ;)

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It's not that far off from fencing.
 

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Part of being a great athlete is not being great at one movement or good at one course of fire but being able to think on the fly, adapt to diversity, and be able to handle any challenge you face. Volleyball, soccer, and other sports in the olympics don't get to just hone one certain movement to perfection they have to adapt to how the other team is playing, weather conditions, and if you make a mistake. Is the better shooter the one that masters one course of fire or one that can adapt and master any course of fire on the fly?
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I can't think of too many Olympic sporting events where surprise is a variable. And for good reason. People want to see athletes perform at extraordinary levels which they train for.
 
Aragon said:
I can't think of too many Olympic sporting events where surprise is a variable. And for good reason. People want to see athletes perform at extraordinary levels which they train for.[/QUOTE

Anything where you face human competition on the field of play.

I don't see how not being able to memorize practiced actions for the entire performance ahead of time means you don't see extraordinary levels of performance.

The "you can't keep it hidden somebody will cheat" angle might be the killer though.
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