Bigjake
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wouldnt matter much with the GCA 68, and 86' bans, and feeding our new toys would be difficult with the stupid 94 thing still in place
If the NFA were repealed
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Nightcrawler
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Well, at least all the tactical guys could buy genuine M4s and be like "SEE! SEE! Now it's REALLY like what the ARMY uses, not just sorta-like it! YAY, it makes me ELITE!"
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I'd probably get a select fire FAL, but I don't think the full auto setting would be useful. A select fire, suppressable .22LR carbine, like a 10/22 with a folding stock and a short barrel, would be a VERY fun toy to play with.
Might get a UMP45, but I don't so much like the buttstock on it.
I'd be on some suppressors, though. I'd get one for the FAL (though it'd be a muzzle heavy beast with a .308 suppressor) and one for each of my .45s. I'd see if I couldn't have a custom suppressed revolver made (perhaps using a Dan Wesson and screwing in the barrel extra tight to close up the cylinder gap? It's been done before.)
You guy scan keep the GPMGs. I couldn't afford to feed one and without an assistant gunner and spare barrels they don't have much practical use. (Not to mention they tend to run in excess of $5K a pop.)
You guys could also have the M4s and whatnot. A select fire AKM might be fun, but I'm really of the opinion that unless it's a submachine gun or a belt fed, semiauto is better than full auto or burst fire for nearly every situation. Subguns have recoil low enough that full auto fire is more controllable (and with pistol cartridges multiple hits are more likely to be necessary) and belt feds are typically heavy enough and have the ammo capacity to make automatic fire useful.
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I'd probably get a select fire FAL, but I don't think the full auto setting would be useful. A select fire, suppressable .22LR carbine, like a 10/22 with a folding stock and a short barrel, would be a VERY fun toy to play with.
Might get a UMP45, but I don't so much like the buttstock on it.
I'd be on some suppressors, though. I'd get one for the FAL (though it'd be a muzzle heavy beast with a .308 suppressor) and one for each of my .45s. I'd see if I couldn't have a custom suppressed revolver made (perhaps using a Dan Wesson and screwing in the barrel extra tight to close up the cylinder gap? It's been done before.)
You guy scan keep the GPMGs. I couldn't afford to feed one and without an assistant gunner and spare barrels they don't have much practical use. (Not to mention they tend to run in excess of $5K a pop.)
You guys could also have the M4s and whatnot. A select fire AKM might be fun, but I'm really of the opinion that unless it's a submachine gun or a belt fed, semiauto is better than full auto or burst fire for nearly every situation. Subguns have recoil low enough that full auto fire is more controllable (and with pistol cartridges multiple hits are more likely to be necessary) and belt feds are typically heavy enough and have the ammo capacity to make automatic fire useful.
Zach S
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So far I've only had experiance with an MP5, so I'd guess I'd have one of those.
Short bbl shotgun with a surefire for HD.
My Thompson wouldnt be a 1927 with a 16" bbl.
I'd have a supressor for most of my guns.
Might as well get an M16 too, and a 93R would be nice...
Hmmm, supressors, a real thompson, an M16, and a 93R, I think I'm covered...
If ammo prices are untouched, I dont see me shooting my FA toys very often, even if I started reloading.
Short bbl shotgun with a surefire for HD.
My Thompson wouldnt be a 1927 with a 16" bbl.
I'd have a supressor for most of my guns.
Might as well get an M16 too, and a 93R would be nice...
Hmmm, supressors, a real thompson, an M16, and a 93R, I think I'm covered...
If ammo prices are untouched, I dont see me shooting my FA toys very often, even if I started reloading.
Billmanweh
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Integrally suppressed Ruger MK II, 10/22 (or 77/22), and a 77/44. An M4, a full size Uzi, and probably an MP5, all with suppressors and rimfire conversions where applicable. I'd also get SWR 9mm and .45 handgun suppressors. Without the ban in place, I could probably pick up everything and tons of ammo for less than $15,000. The only other thing I might want is something belt fed and .308 or bigger.
Bobarino
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a Walther P22 with silencer for fun and pests.
a 10/22 with silencer for fun and pests.
an HK G3 with sinlge/3round burst/full auto trigger pack.
an HK MP5SD with the same trigger pack.
an HK MP5/10 with the same trigger pack.
an HK USP tactical with silencer.
a Remington PSS in .308 with silencer.
an M249 SAW
of course i'd have to win the lotto to be able to afford all this. but hey, a guy can dream can't he?
Bobby
a 10/22 with silencer for fun and pests.
an HK G3 with sinlge/3round burst/full auto trigger pack.
an HK MP5SD with the same trigger pack.
an HK MP5/10 with the same trigger pack.
an HK USP tactical with silencer.
a Remington PSS in .308 with silencer.
an M249 SAW
of course i'd have to win the lotto to be able to afford all this. but hey, a guy can dream can't he?
Bobby
If they got rid of the NFA 34, could you imagine what that would mean for new firearms inventions though?
I mean, we've got all these highly skilled computer programmers, CAD programmers, amazing CNC machinery, and tens of thousands of people who know how to utilize it. Who knows who'd be the next John Browning? It's all the massive regulation & government controls right now that keep people from "growing their own" so to speak. The mind boggles.
I mean, we've got all these highly skilled computer programmers, CAD programmers, amazing CNC machinery, and tens of thousands of people who know how to utilize it. Who knows who'd be the next John Browning? It's all the massive regulation & government controls right now that keep people from "growing their own" so to speak. The mind boggles.
Brian Williams
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M16a1 and a bunch of suppressors.
Nightcrawler
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Why? Gun companies spend millions of dollars developing designs, testing them, and producing prototypes.
Would the possibility of having your basic AUTOCAD engineering whiz deciding to build a gun prototype really give us a"renaissance" in small arms design? What do you think would be developed that nobody is trying now? Even without the laws, how many engineers would try their hand at firearms design, especially with so many established designs out there dominating the market (M16 family, 1911 family, Glock line, etc.)? It'd be a significant commitment without a great possibility of financial reward.
Besides, there's nothing stopping these people from designing guns now. It's not against the law to design and build your own firearm. Yes, it has to comply with the NFA and AWB, but people can build their own guns. Ask Correia.
There's just a LOT of established competition in a design field that has reached something of a plateau. It'd take millions of dollars to develop anything significantly better than what's being worked on right now. How many back yard gun designers have the means to do this?
If anybody does have a good idea for a gun, even an NFA-verbotten design, you can still design it and patent it. If you sell the design to a gun company, it might go into production.
But, gun companies don't seem especially interested in new designs these days. Heck, Sig and S&W are now making 1911 type guns, and rumor has it HK is going to as well. Everytime somebody talks about any type of 5.56mm rifle, someone will inevitably chime in that it's no better than an AR-15 clone and that they won't buy it.
I think the main reason you don't see more variety in gun design is because we, as a market, are quite content with what we have and aren't terribly open to new ideas. Espeically since that new guns, without the massive, established production and support network of guns like the AR-15 and 1911 lines, are going to COST MORE.
Standing Wolf
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I can't imagine myself buying a fully automatic anything—I still drive a stick shift car after all these years—but I'd probably buy a silencer for the sake of my hearing.
CleverNickname
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Let's see....
I'd get a bunch of suppressors, which I'll probably end up getting anyway (trying to get the signoff for my first one right now). My ARs would get extra holes in the receivers. The Glock back slide plates with the full-auto switches look like fun. An SBS for a car gun. If I still had money left, an M240 and a USAS 12.
Oh yeah, most importantly, several commercial-grade reloading machines to feed everything.
I'd get a bunch of suppressors, which I'll probably end up getting anyway (trying to get the signoff for my first one right now). My ARs would get extra holes in the receivers. The Glock back slide plates with the full-auto switches look like fun. An SBS for a car gun. If I still had money left, an M240 and a USAS 12.
Oh yeah, most importantly, several commercial-grade reloading machines to feed everything.
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