If you have a CCW in your state

[Cosmoline]

A secure government facility is one thing, but a shopping center? They can go to the hot place. Some state CCW laws back this a big deal, others give businesses no particular right to exclude CCW holders.

 

[3rdpig]

In Arizona you can legally ignore the signs (unless it's an establishment that serves alcohol, where by law you aren't allowed to carry). However, if they see your gun and ask you to leave you must comply or you are trespassing and breaking the law.

My problem with signs like this are simple, there are so many good looking women in this state my eyes are too busy checking out the honey in front of me to notice any signs. But should they see my gun I would most certainly comply with any requests to leave their store, but of course I keep my weapons well concealed.

 

[HimNAz]

Arizona Signs

I believe in Arizona it is illegal to carry where the location is posted. There are no specific signage requirements. See handgunlaw.us for Arizona.

Costco in Prescott is posted - no firearms allowed on premises.

BTW, I am a state certified Arizona CCW instructor (no longer instructing). The Arizona DPS officer who was in charge of the CCW program stated a few years ago that the term 'premises' included the parking lot - this is the technical legal meaning of 'premises' in Arizona he said. I've never heard of any enforcement.

Indian casino parking lots are another matter. Folks have been busted when observed on security cameras handling firearms in those parking lots - even just locking the firearms in the trunk.

 

[Scanr]

In Nevada as long as they don't post the NRS statute, I will walk right on by.

 

[Autolycus]

Originally posted by Nomad101bc:
No its been proven unless you sign an actual contract or its a government structure they are not within thier rights ro infringe on your constitutional rights. For instance private property or not you can not post "no whites allowed in my store" because its a blatant violation of the 14th. This has been upheld by supreme court in several cases. So long as your not hurting anyone your also allowed to mutter strange chants to yourself unless the store decides your a trespasser. In regards to it being private property i would put money on it actaully being a lease because of how comercial zoning works. Being that they are renting they are of even less authority thier only real right is to ask you nicely not to carry but you dont have to comply. Look at the corporate world in no way can they violate your constitutional rights without first bringing you under contract. I can gurantee you if Costco asked all customers to sign a contract stating "i revoke all my constitutional rights" very few people would shop there.

Can you elaborate on which supreme court cases these are?

So does that mean I can come into your home and start protesting and start muttering chants? The arguments about race are different in that they are directly targeting a class of persons. In this case the sign is targeting an item.

I am sorry but property rights should trump other rights.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

Originally posted by WeedWhacker:
To each their own: in my state, such businesses have no legal means to prevent a peaceable person from carrying a concealed weapon into their property. If the weapon is discovered, however, the owners or their representatives can demand you leave - if you don't, they can rightfully have police arrest you for trespassing.

This is also what they do in Arizona.

I can't speak to Costco specifically (if they sold ammo I might shop there, otherwise I have no reason to), but not many business establishments are "posted" here, even banks. Those that do, absolutely have the right to do so ... just as I have the right to not patronize them.

 

[Werewolf]

How can you expect anyone to respect your right to own, and carry a gun, if you can't/won't respect their right to post their property as they see fit? It all comes down to property rights.

So let me get this right...

Property rights - a construct of man - supersede man's natural right to self defense?

Interesting.

 

[Condition Plaid]

In California you can be asked to leave. If you refuse you can be arrested for trespassing.

Other than the very few places that are off-limits by law, what signs? I don't see any signs.

 

[Hoppy590]

im not 100% but im pretty sure MA is actualy cool about it. and the only places where you cant CCW is schools, government buildings and bars.

MA may be good for something. hey even they dont want us mere mortals infrindging on the commonwealths power!