If you have some WIN 6.5x55 brass I need.......

[R.W.Dale]

If you have some WIN 6.5x55 brass handy could you please measure the case head for me. I need some replacement 6.5 Swede brass but it needs to have the "correct" sized case head. Not that pesky 30-06 sized head that Remington uses.

 

[Forestarius]

I'm getting .473 on my Remington. Is that bad?

 

[Ol` Joe]

You might find what you want with Lapua or RWS. I find .473 or so with Remington, Winchester, and a couple old Norma cases I`ve laying around. I seem to remember PMC brass being the same also, but it has been a few years since I have had any.
I`ve personally never had any problems with American brass in the Swede. I don`t think the 0.005" smaller web diameter makes much difference but then I`m not shooting matches or benchrest with mine.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I wouldn't think that 0.005" would have made much of a diffrence either, But the diffrence is brass that lasts for 3 firings or less "remington" versus brass that lasts 7+ firings "federal" or european brass

 

[R-Tex12]

Not Win, but...

My Lapua 6.5x55 measures .478 across the rim.

HTH

Rick

 

[Jake in TX]

Also not Win, and not Lapua either...

I use Prvi Partizan, and it measures .480" across the rim.

Jake in TX

 

[dcloco]

Winchester cases = 0.475"

Hot Shot cases = 0.475"

If you need Winchester cases, I have 800, brand new in the bag.

[email protected]

 

[steve4102]

I use Lapua and Norma, both are of the correct size. Why Win. and Rem. use the smaller case head is anybody's guess. I got a hell of a deal on the Norma Brass, New in 20 round boxes on Ebay, I purchase my Lapua here.

http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=001094PH6012100

 

[DaveInFloweryBranchGA]

At the price some of that new brass is running, you're about as well off in the 6.5 X 55 to buy the privi partisan, shoot it and then reuse the brass. Then at least you're getting a loaded round for the same money. It's definately good brass and the proper size as well.

BTW, the new Wolf boxer primed brass cartridges are privi partisan.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Ol` Joe]

I wouldn't think that 0.005" would have made much of a diffrence either, But the diffrence is brass that lasts for 3 firings or less "remington" versus brass that lasts 7+ firings "federal" or european brass

What type of troubles are you haveing?
What rifle?

I`ve had three 6.5x55s, a M96, a Remington classic, and a Mark X that have shot American ammo with no problem. Remember the measurment in the manuals for the case is the MAX not average/min figure for that point on the case that will fit a proper chamber. The Swede isn`t alone in not measuring up to the figures given in the books. Most new brass is undersize in my experiance and goes unnoticed. I just measued a few American cartridge cases and a couple Swedes I have on hand and this is the result.

223 Remington - Remington brass = .372" SAAMI = .3773"

270 Win- Winchester brass = .464" / SAAMI = .471"

7-08 Rem - Federal brass = .465" / SAAMI =.4709"

6.5x284 - Nosler brass = .497" - Lapua = .498" / CIP = .500"

260 Rem - Remington brass = .466" / SAAMI = .4709"

6.5x55 - Winchester brass = .472" - Norma brass = .478" CIP / .4803"

The first measurment is what I found. The SAAMI number is the spec from the Speer #13 manual except for the 6.5x284 which came from Noslers #5 The company name is the brand of brass measured. Most of the brass measured .004"- .005" below the spec in the book, except for Norma and Lapua. Both of those were still .002"/.003" smaller.

Although it could be, I still don`t think the .005" variance in Euro and American brass is the problem or it would show in most other cartridges too.

 

[R.W.Dale]

the problem is that the undersized cases last for about 3 firings before seperating about .25 above the rim, I really don't think headspace is an issue as my 20 Federal cases are probably on the 7'th firing and still looking strong.

It could be that the remmy brass is just of really poor quality, I may just buy a few win cases and try em out and see if the result is the same

 

[LarrysGrip]

The conclusion on cases

Is the conclusion then, that Prvi Partizan, Lapua, and Norma cases have larger diameter heads, and that the brass lasts longer for more reloads? Thank you.

 

[JohnKSa]

I'm not sure how this all relates, but I can tell you that Remington won't group worth anything in my Swede. I get groups that are around 12" at 100 yards from a rest.

Winchester gives me groups between 1 & 2 inches, Federal and the good surplus goes under an inch.

All that to say that something (I have no idea what) is not right with the Remington 6.5x55 that I have tried...

 

[Ross]

What seems a trivial difference can become more important when cases are being converted to other calibers. European cases generally bulge less and make such as 7.7 Japanese cases with less bulge. The first lot of Graf-Hornady 7.7 Jap was skinny, but has been reported to be better now.
Thank you for the list; it helps.
One might expect that American chambers might be cut to skinnier standards, but I do not know if that is so. Norma generally shoots fine in Remingtons.
Cheers from Darkest California,
Ross