If you were to go back in time to the Old West

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Hmmm, my choices would be:

Model 29, for the reasons listed above. It would look similar to what's local, but have a lot more firepower.

FN-FAL/ .308 caliber, since thousands of rounds are available. Good, heavy caliber that can take down pretty much anything around, whether two or four footed. Accurate enough to shoot the wings off a gnat at 600 yards.

Shotgun? Street Sweeper with box magazines. Firepower and lots of it.
 
It's funny, I was just thinking about this. Specifically, I was just watching the gunfight at the end of Open Range on TV, and I kept thinking, "Man, it would sure help to have a pistol you didn't have to cock every time you fired it. What kind of damage could a guy do with a decent semi-auto?"

If I were going back to the "Old West", this is what I'd bring:

2 Glock 17s with both regular and 33 round mags. I'm not a huge fan of Glocks, but for something that has to last without ever failing, I figure Glock is probably the way to go

I'd want to take two rifles. An AK variant of some sort, and a bolt-action .308, maybe a Remington, with really good glass. Firepower enough for short/medium range, and the ability to reach out and touch someone.

For a shotgun, I think I'd take a Winchester Defender pump. Autoloaders are tempting, but a pump would probably last longer.

I'd also bring the best binoculars I could find (maybe my pair of Hammers 7x50s, which ought to be durable enough).

And I'd take at least two of everything. Because two is one, and one is none.

And toilet paper. Lots of toilet paper. Because I ain't goin' time-traveling without a case of Cottonelle. That's a deal breaker.
 
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I imagine firearm technology would be different in a world in which time machines are available.

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I thought it meant exactly what it says.

If we had the technology to make time machines, we'd have the technology to make something better than a Glock, so I'd choose something like a plasma-phased rifle.

Make sense?
 
If we had the technology to make time machines, we'd have the technology to make something better than a Glock, so I'd choose something like a plasma-phased rifle.

Make sense?
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Even if we didn't, we could just time travel to the future and get phased plasma rifles (in the 40-watt range). :)
 
Well, since I usually mind my own bussiness, I'd prob take a ruger blackhawk in 45lc cause I like them. i would take a nice 38 snubbie since thats eons better then the derringers they had. I'd prob skip the rifle altogether since i dont anticipate long shots. I would take a reliable pump shotgun though with the extended mag tube and a cut down barrel
 
Who'd go back to that anyway? Coal-burning stoves and outdoor plumbing? Go on ahead, I'll wave goodbye (and laugh) as you disappear!
 
If it was my one and only gun, I would take a PTR-91. Basically indestructible so I wouldnt have to worry about it breaking as quickly as a lot of others. It would of course have a good trigger job, and a good scope on a quick release mount. This should allow me to dominate any gunfight between 25 and 800 yards. The 308 would be good enough for my buffalo hunting or when I had to snipe Sitting Bull at 500 yards, and the shorter barrel on the PTR would be compact enough to allow me to handle it inside the stable when I am picking up my trusty horse.

P.S. Instead of a horse, can I have a 4 wheeler with unlimited gas? :)When restless natives start chasing me I can snipe them with my trusty 308 until they get within 200 yards, then zoom out at 50MPH until I get far enough ahead to stop and snipe again :) Ditto for the all the jealous cowboys who will be after me because of the high CDI factor inherent in my rifle/4 wheeler gear. After a hard day of dominating the world I would pull out my fender portable speaker system and have a rock concert for the amazed townspeople.
 
pistol ruger super redhawk .44mag
rifle mosin nagant :)
shotty rem 870

also a .50 bmg for sitting bull ;)
 
Someone hit the nail on the head, "...Well, since I usually mind my own business,...."


If you stay out of saloons and gambling halls, you probably arent going to be in full scale battle evey moment. Actually, you will probably not be bothered at all. The writers of the day mention that you are safer in the west than in the cities of the east at that time. Charlie Russell commented in a letter that if all the guys were shot in real life as were in the movies, the red men would still be in charge. Roosevelt also wrote that most of the guys shot were asking for it, and weren't missed by the communities.


A good scoped bolt gun like a sporterized Springfield or Mauser in 30-06, for hunting primarily, and longer range defense, in the unlikley event you would need it, a Winchester 1886 light rifle, and 1894 carbine in 30 WCF cal, would about do it. Modern handguns arent enough ahead of the game for what you would use one for to be worth the trouble of having to bring your own ammo. A Colt SAA, and a Smith 38 top break would round out the bunch, and be quite capable of dealing with whatever came up. A stash of 1K rounds for each for 30-06 and 30 WCF would probably last a lifetime of real use, with a hand loader and mold, and a couple pounds of Unique or Red Dot for small game loads.


If you want to look for trouble, you will find it, and its usually in towns. I'm not a town guy in any event. I'd love to go back and be a later day mountain recluse, like Jake Hoover. Hunt meat and trap, sell your goods in the scattered towns, resupply, head back into the high and wild places. Maybe run a handfull of range cows in some secluded valley,....
 
I'm with the posters above who commented in effect that the gun we carry is the LEAST of what we bring to the table as a time traveler to the late nineteenth century.

Knowledge of probable financial, commercial and other developments provides unbelievable power for good or evil.

You buy all the right stocks, of course.

You could write all the bestselling novels, all the hit plays, all the best poems.

You get to invent the typewriter, the phonograph, commercial electricity, the airplane, and the automobile if you want to. And patent them all. Preferably behind your friends who you set up as strawmen. The geek squad -- Bell, Ford, Edison, Firestone.

You get to place bets on just about everything EXCEPT sporting events, the outcomes of which may change.

You ingratiate yourself with all the right people. Your pals are a Who's Who of 1893.

Yes, John D. Rockefeller was a time traveller.

John Titor was NOT.
 
Wait, I'm going back to the old west to kill people?

Is the point of this thread "what modern weapons would you use to shoot people with inferior weapons for no good reason?"
 
An AK 74 since you can carry more ammo than an AK 47 (even though I love the 7.62x39 round). ALso, A hi cap 9mm luger sidearm from a reputable company. Thats it for guns. Maybe some spare parts for each.. and a cleaning kit.

I might want a detachable scope for the ak74 if they even make one.
 
I could not go back to the old west. I would have been mistaken for an Indian, or relegated to building railroads,or working for a laundry service.:evil:
 
I would take lots and lots of toilet paper. They didn't have any back then.
 
WHICH Old West? 1840s trans-Mississippi frontier? 1850s Gold-Rush migration? 1860s War and resettlement? 1870s & '80s Indian wars and cattle empire expansions? 1890s farming and mining friction? The 1900s Mexican Revolution/Pancho Villa raids? The one in the 1950s television shows? The one in the spaghetti westerns?

Come on, folks!
 
Around here, "Frontier Days" means the seventeenth century.

This area hasn't really changed all that much since then. It shows more in wintertime.
 
Cannonball, have you ever read Mark Twain's "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"? Hilarious as only Twain (or Ambrose Bierce or Ring Lardner) could be.

"Merlin's stock was flat."
 
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