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IL: Governor Quinn's gun ban bill rebuked in Illinois Senate

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  1. Templar223

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    Quinn's gun ban bill rebuked in Illinois Senate


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    (Guns Save Life) - Illinois Governor Pat “Clueless” Quinn was resoundingly rebuked by a 49-4 vote yesterday as the Senate over-rode the governor’s earlier amendatory veto of SB 681.

    The common sense gun bill originally had widespread support and would have allowed Illinois FOID-card holders to purchase ammunition from Illinois retailers and have it shipped to their homes.

    Governor Quinn struck the original language and substituted in a Draconian gun ban that would have banned manufacture, possession or sale of America’s favorite rifle, the AR-15, and dozens more of the most popular selling guns in America today. Furthermore, it would have likewise banned full-capacity magazines.


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    I hate when politicians do that, luckily it was caught. Finally a win in Illinois.
     
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    "Clueless Quinn" I love it.

    I'm glad to see some, even if small, progress in IL.
     
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    He's not giving up

    The overwhelming override of his veto was not a referendum on gun rights in the Illinois Senate, it was about the senators' opinions of a governor using his amendatory veto power to completely create legislation from scratch - which they weren't happy about.

    Quinn is going about it the "right" way now by having discussions with senators who are gun control advocates. One of the Illinois senators - probably Jackie Collins (http://www.jacquelinecollins.org/meet.htm) will introduce a new "assault" weapons ban next week or the week after.

    After it is introduced Quinn will come out publicly and announce that he supports it.
     
  6. Trent

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    Since the election, how is the balance of power in house and senate looking?

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    (Also, haven't we had an Assault Weapons Ban bill introduced every year since 2004?)
     
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    Yes, someone proposes a AWB almost every year - it's usually Eddie Acevedo.

    The senators and representatives who were in office before Nov 6th are still in office until January 2013

    As far as the elections go - we were the victims of democratic redistricing and we lost 7 seats in the Ilinois House and 5 seats in the Illinois Senate.

    When it comes to gun legislation we still maintain a simple majority - which is sufficient to kill mindless gun grabs like the one coming up. But it's not the 3/5 majority needed to override Illinois home rule provision and override a governor veto - which is what we need to pass carry legislation.
     
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    1. I saw yesterday that Quinn is the most UNpopular governor in the nation.
    2. Illinois will NEVER get concealed carry via legislation, ONLY via Supreme Court decision.
     
  9. C0untZer0

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    There was a broad based RTKBA all across the United States. And I believe the only places in the country that have gun control now have corrupt political systems that allow the politicians to resiste and subvert the will of the majority. Illinois is one of the most corrupt states, one of the most mismanaged states.

    These things all go hand in hand with the anti-gun philosphy and I don't think its a coincidence:

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/01/justi...utm_campaign=Feed:+rss/edition_us+(RSS:+U.S.)

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-150415625.html
     
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    Count,

    I had read the Chicago story on CNN earlier this week.. All I can say is wow. I guess Quinn will continue a tradition of IL governors doing time....

    The Yahoo story was also a good read. No surprises at the bottom there.
     
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    The IL House overrode the Governor's veto - but not each one of those votes equals a yes vote for a carry bill.

    Lou Lang said something to the effect that he thought the governor's heart was in the right place and he agreed with the AWB, but that the governor overstepped his authority and needed to follow the constitution.
     
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