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Illegal immigrants turn desert into trash dump

By LUKE TURF
Tucson Citizen
08/18/2003

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TUCSON (AP) -- Stepping over bear and mountain lion dung with birds singing and snakes rattling nearby, three retiree hikers take a rocky trail a few miles into the backcountry in the Huachuca Mountains. They go all the way to a once-beautiful ravine -- now filled with a disheartening sea of trash.
A cool breeze worries one of the hikers, 69-year-old Alexa Cottingham. She knows that winds carry trash from a nearby illegal immigrant campsite over a cliff and into the ravine. There it will sit until the next breeze pushes it farther down the stream of waste.

Discarded pants and plastic bags are caught in a sotol plant. Jumex drink cans, tuna tins, pants, shoes, women's underwear and discarded feminine hygiene products, chips and bread bags, hats and a tequila bottle blanket the landscape.

"We're used to the trash along the road and all of that," says Cottingham, who lives in Hereford near the border. "But having it this extensive, it was just as if they brought all of Mexico here. ... I didn't know how people could have that much trash."

It's been a problem as long as people have illegally crossed the deserts. It increased in southern Arizona in the late 1990s when the U.S. Border Patrol cracked down on illegal immigration into Texas and California, pushing illegal immigrants -- and their trash -- into Arizona's remote deserts.

To Cottingham and her fellow hikers, the problem seems overwhelming. It's just one example of pristine Sonoran Desert turned into a trash dump.

About $2 million in newly approved federal funds should help address -- though admittedly not solve -- the problem in the short term, according to the Arizona congressman who helped secure the money. But some fear it's like trying to dam a river with a wine cork.

To combat the trash, Republican congressman Jim Kolbe of Tucson helped secure the money, half in this fiscal year's budget and half in the next one. At least $695,000 is already being put to use, according to Beau McClure, special assistant for international programs for the Bureau of Land Management, the federal agency dispersing the funds.


It's just a fraction of the $20 million a congressional report estimates is needed to remove trash in southeastern Arizona's deserts. McClure says he's putting together a statewide estimate of how much money is needed for the border region, because the problem isn't limited to one corner of the state.

An environmental specialist with the tribe, Ken Cronin, says about 1,500 immigrants sneak through the Tohono O'odham reservation daily. Each leaves an average of eight pounds of trash -- totaling six tons -- a day, he said.

"It's just blanketed," Cronin says of the tribal land. "It's pretty tremendous; there's a pretty severe visual impact."

Many of the trails and campsites used by illegal immigrants are in remote areas, but many of the places where they get picked up are close to residential areas. There they often drop what they're carrying, Cronin says.

Cronin estimates the O'odham need about $1.67 million to clean up their reservation.

Off tribal land, McClure says, the $695,000 he received in March has been put to such uses as an Earth Day cleanup in which about 40 volunteers from 20 agencies picked up garbage in the San Pedro Riparian National Conservation Area near Hereford. He says "considerably more than half" of the money will go to other city, county and private organizations as compensation for cleaning the terrain. Most of the rest will be used for supplies such as gloves and trash bags.

"It's certainly not a solution to the problem; it's just a means to take care of some of the damage that's occurring," McClure says. "And it's going to be trashed again as the thousands of people come through the border -- each day, actually."

Democratic congressman Raul Grijalva of Tucson applauds Kolbe for bringing the funds to the area. Yet he is disappointed Congress hasn't made any progress on illegal immigration.

"It's a surface issue. The problem is much more fundamentally deep than that," Grijalva says. "The irony is that we continue to deal with the surface problem."

McClure says the wildlife disturbance, habitat destruction and degradation of wildlife health caused by the human waste will continue to destroy the ecosystem.

Beyond the dangers the trash poses to wildlife lies one of the biggest fears: wildfires.

This year's Eureka fire, in the foothills of the Huachucas, not far from here, burned about 40 acres. Officials believe illegal immigrants started a signal or cooking fire that got out of control.

"This is what scares the hell out of me. You see that fireplace there," Clark says. "See, it's hidden so nobody could see it, but it could get away ... and down that canyon real fast."

More trashed sites are likely until illegal immigrants stop coming over the border or start cleaning up after themselves. In the meantime, several groups addressing other border issues also take to the desert to pick up their trash.

Humane Borders, which maintains water stations in the desert for illegal immigrants, heads trash pickups once a month. Groups opposed to illegal immigration -- such as Ranch Rescue, an armed group based in Texas that patrols private ranches, and Civil Homeland Defense, a sometimes-armed citizens patrol based in Tombstone -- also regularly organize cleanups.

And U.S. Border Patrol agents in each of the agency's stations organize periodic cleanups.

Over on tribal land, Jim Fletcher, the federal Environmental Protection Agency's tribal specialist on the border, is trying to get about $50,000 in grants to combat the problem.

The money would go toward cleanups, recycling, warning signs and even trash cans.

"We're about ready to try anything at this point in time," Fletcher says


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Actually mine are clean

There are a bunch of (I presume) illegal aliens, waiting on a corner near where I live for work every morning. They have bags secured to the trees for trash, and I saw two guys hauling it to my dumpster one day. I know I pay to have the dumpster emptied, but I wish more citizens were as conciencious as they have been.
 
"Democratic congressman Raul Grijalva of Tucson applauds Kolbe for bringing the
funds to the area. Yet he is disappointed Congress hasn't made any progress on
illegal immigration.

"It's a surface issue. The problem is much more fundamentally deep than that,"
Grijalva says. "The irony is that we continue to deal with the surface problem."

Yes, it is very ironic, isn't it? When we probe deeply beneath the surface,
we'll realize, no doubt, that legalizing everyone who wants in from
Mexico is the only answer. Right, Congressman? That will take care of
the trash problem. Or maybe just move it north?
 
And us good old American citizens aren't much, if any, better.

Sad but true Mike...

Found out the last time we went out shooting that our favorite place is just about ready to be shut down because of trash dumpers, and they are the local residents... They take out all their unwanted appliances and such and leave them...
 
It might not be especially likeable and will raise howls in certain quarters, but how about the following solution?

Take a bunch of illegal immigrants that have been locked up for some reason, shackle them with remote control stun/locator collars set to go off if they're more than 2 miles from the control unit. Tell them what's been locked onto them (demonstrate it) and then take them out to the desert as a cleanup and labor crew. Only the truly desperate will even try to leave and for those a UAV pass and a horse posse should suffice. At the end of their sentence, the bunch is deported and the next bunch takes their place.

Somehow I think that the prospect of doing hard labor while wearing a shock collar for a month will dissuade people to cross in that area.

Cheers,
ErikM :evil:
 
For the record I think there is a major problem on the southern border with illegals. Effects include human smuggling, drug trafficing, drug production, illegal entry, abuse of welfare hamock, destruction of the delicate desert ecology :barf: and so forth. Quite a bit of the damage is visual in nature and there for everyone to see.

<Stupid question alert>
So how come I have yet to see any film footage of any of the damage claimed to be so bad? How come I have yet to see any night photography of columns of illegals hiking through the desert? How come no footage of the trash dumps claimed to exist by varrious articles? How come FOXNews and O'Reilley haven't commissioned Geraldo to put on his tilley, grab a photog, and spend a few days wandering around the effected area? Hey, if Geraldo can crawl through Afgani caves he can wander around a trash dump taking the same cheesy video footage.
<Stupid question alert cancelled>

At some point you gotta question the existence of a claimed problem if logical and subsequent actions are not taken. For example, the American Border Patrol will spend money on rolling their own UAV to fly around looking for illegals then broadcast the footage on the internet. How come someone hasn't taken money and paid a photog to take video then roll the video into a tape for sale on the same internet.

Something just ain't right.
 
Hey, heres an idea:

Howsabout you take the money being spent to clean up after the illegals, and find a way to keep them out in the first place?

(And I agree us Americans aren't much better. Remember the commercial with the Indian and the tear?)
 
Waitone

So how come I have yet to see any film footage of any of the damage claimed to be so bad? How come I have yet to see any night photography of columns of illegals hiking through the desert? How come no footage of the trash dumps claimed to exist by varrious articles? How come FOXNews and O'Reilley haven't commissioned Geraldo to put on his tilley, grab a photog, and spend a few days wandering around the effected area? Hey, if Geraldo can crawl through Afgani caves he can wander around a trash dump taking the same cheesy video footage.

IM me an address, and I can send you a tape of news snippits with such footage, mostly from local stations in AZ and TX. The Fox program 'The Pulse' also did a piece showing such footage a year or so ago. As to why this doesn't get more air time, great question. Guess it doesnt fit in with some agendas.

Update; The Pulse segment on this issue with the footage you asked for aired on 07/11/02, and Geraldo did it, just like you requested! :D

"Are Muslim extremists still getting into the U.S. nearly nine months after September 11? The people who want to bring terror to our 50 states are being smuggled over the Mexican border. And they're getting some help from the most unlikely people. This week award winning correspondent Geraldo Rivera breaks the chilling story of Terror On Our Doorstep. The results of this investigation will shock you to your core."
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Here's a better idea.....let's start shooting them when we catch them and then we can send them and their stinkin' trash back home!!
 
I have always said to just shoot the little bastards as they're crossing, but does anyone ever listen to me?

Noooooooooooooo


:banghead: :cuss:
 
Humane Borders, which maintains water stations in the desert for illegal immigrants, heads trash pickups once a month. Groups opposed to illegal immigration -- such as Ranch Rescue, an armed group based in Texas that patrols private ranches, and Civil Homeland Defense, a sometimes-armed citizens patrol based in Tombstone -- also regularly organize cleanups.

Interesting to picture Ranch Rescue and Humane Borders members crossing paths.

Figure Ranch Rescue might "take out the trash?"
 
What Worked

Well,Mine Fields and 3 barbed wire fences and watch towers with interlocking fields of fire seemed to have slowed cross border traffic.
Between East and West Germany
hmmm think that might work again here?
 
Lets not liken a wall on our borders to the Berlin wall. A wall built to keep people in is sinister. A wall built to keep people out is just good sense.

Good fences make good neighbors.

An illegal alien is someone who's visa expired. Someone sneaking across our border is an invader and it should be handled by the military. Defense of the borders is one of the most fundamantal responsibilities of the Federal government.

No invadors, no trash.
 
Illegal immigrants? Unless Rich Lowry is a complete liar (which I doubt), here are some interesting facts with regard to what they've done to California. Someone may well have posted this link somewhere already since I'm assuming more than a few of us read N.R.O. If it hasn't been, or for those that missed it:

http://nationalreview.com/lowry/lowry081803.asp
 
Groups opposed to illegal immigration -- such as Ranch Rescue, an armed group based in Texas that patrols private ranches, and Civil Homeland Defense, a sometimes-armed citizens patrol based in Tombstone -- also regularly organize cleanups.
I can hear my momma now with her chant as I grew up, "Pick it up, fold it up, put it in the drawer. You made the mess, son, you clean it up." Now why would my momma's immortal words come back to haunt me? Seems to me there is a ready supply of laborers available to clean up their own messes.

Sometimes I think I'm out of touch with reality. Imagine that, cleaning up your own mess!
 
These folks are telling it like it is.
I live in the foothills of the Huachuca Mountains and illegals are a serious problem here. Not only because of all the litter and the wildfires, but there have been assaults, thefts, kidnappings by the illegals. Lately, there have even been shots fired and blood spilled but nobody is talking about it.
It's going to come to a head and get real nasty sooner or later.
 
Well,Mine Fields and 3 barbed wire fences and watch towers with interlocking fields of fire seemed to have slowed cross border traffic.

At the risk of belaboring the obvious...

A locked door keeping you IN my house makes me a kidnapper.
A locked door keeping you OUT of my house makes me a responsible homeowner.
 
And us good old American citizens aren't much, if any, better.

I think we are doing a heck of alot better than some of the countries I've been to in the past.

Of course, we could do even better than we are now thats for sure.

Went to Mexico last weekend for 2 days. Drove thru the Tohonto O'odham reservation and seen about 50 Border patrol vehicles ranging from a Jeep to a Humvee and even a Charter bus full of Illegals.

Seen a group of about 20 by the side of the road being detained by 2 Border Patrol guys waiting on the bus to pick them up.

If its this bad during the summer heat I could imagine how it is when it gets cooler.

There is a serious problem here folks.
 
Fining employers of illegals is a good idea except that a large percentage of those coming across the line have no intention of working here.
 
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