im new to reloading and have a question... please help

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Ok like it says I'm new to this (very new) and before you ask yes I have a reloading handbook (hornady 9th edition) and yes I have read it forward and backward ind inside and out. But here is my question let's say I want to load some 168gr. Berger vld for my 280. But I don't have a Berger handbook I only have a hornady and Nosler handbook. Can I take the min to max loads out of those handbooks for the 168gr. They offer and use for the 168gr. Berger vld? Or will I need to wait for my Berger handbook that has been on back order for 3 months? I apologize if this is a dumb question or if it is too green of a question. Like I said I'm new to this.
 
Yes, you can use the Hornady data and work up from the starting load.

Do not use the stated OAL, as it will be wrong for the VLD.

Seat what will fit in your magazine and call that your OAL.

rc
 
Ok so in the case of the hornady book it doesn't show 168gr. It goes from 162.gr. to 175gr.... What would you do in that case?
 
Always error on the side of heavier bullet data.

No way you can get in trouble doing that like you could using lighter bullet data with a heavier bullet.

Wish I could help you more on the VLD data, but I don't have any.

BTW: Hodgdon website has some 168 Sierra data.

http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/rifle

rc
 
Thanks! I also have 500 rounds of 138gr. Interlock btsp that I got free when I bought my lock n load starter kit. But my book has those so I will start there. I will also be loading for my sporterized 6.5x55 swede,257 weatherby and 308.
 
In line with what RC suggested, and if it were me, I would use the next heavier bullet data also. But I wouldn't be so inclined to use the minimum start charge for the 175 gr. bullet. Nothings going to blow up if you start a bit higher in the table. And honestly, since you are using a lighter bullet, a mid table charge for the 175 gr. is probably going to be closer to a typical start charge for the 168 gr. projectile.

That is honestly how I would, and have worked with off set charge tables. I'm not one to take risks when it concerns reloading, thus I certainly wouldn't want to put someone else at risk either. So IMO, this is a safe approach, and will spare you some wasted components while working up to a good performing load.

GS
 
huntinfool87,

I've never tried the 168gr bullets in my .280, but it does like the 162gr Hornady bullets. Also it likes IMR-4350 powder. Not sure if you've decided on a powder yet but 4350 is a good place to start.
 
Remember this....the heavier the bullet the lighter the load.....the lighter the bullet, the heavier the load. If your weight bullet isn't shown in your data, you can go to the next HEAVIER bullet and use the starting load there. You cannot go the other way.
 
my first batch is done

Ok guys thank you all for the info! I have loaded my first batch for load development! I'm starting with my 280 and my sporterized 6.5x55. The pic is of the 6.5x55 with 140gr. Berger vld. With 40.4gr. Of H4831 with cci primers. For load development I'm loading 5 rounds of the each of the 3 minimum loads. Can't wait to go shooting!
 

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Gotta love the 6.5x55 lol it's a touch over max length but feeds in my rifle great and I see no sings of it touching the land.
 
Have you emailed the bullet manufacturer or checked to see if they have a website with load data?

Since your manual is on backorder, they should have an interest in keeping you safe and happy with their customer service.

You may also find load data data from the powder manufacturer's web site.

Remember that heavier bullets take lighter powder charges to achieve the same performance. Remember that if you wind up having to interpolate between bullet weights.

Also remember that the cartridge length is intended to do three things, in INCREASING level of importance to safety.
1) ensure feeding through your action (least important for safety)
2) ensure the bullet does not jam up against the rifling.
3) set the base of the bullet such that the volume inside the case is appropriate. For the same bullet weight, if the same overall length (nose of bullet to base of case), a long-nosed bullet or deep hollowpoint bullet will have its base deeper than a blunt or flat-point solid bullet OF THE SAME WEIGHT. That is, a smaller volume, which will lead to higher pressure.

What I am suggesting with point #3 above is that you should calculate where the BASE of any bullet you seat is...and compare that to the location of the base of other bullets (presumably with a different nose profile.

The simplest and safest thing to do is to load in the medium-light range of powder charge at first and work up loads over a chronograph, watching for signs of high pressure (or low pressure). If you don't have a chronograh (or access to one), gather as much information from bullet, brass and powder manfacturers (see my first paragraph) as you can.

Good luck.

Lost Sheep

p.s. I just looked at Berger's web site. I did not find data for the 280 Remington. In am confident that an email to them will get a response. It would have to if they are responsible and if they have the data.

What powder(s) are you thinking of using? Sticking with the H4831 (which I missed seeing on my first read-through)
 
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Ok guys thank you all for the info! I have loaded my first batch for load development! I'm starting with my 280 and my sporterized 6.5x55. The pic is of the 6.5x55 with 140gr. Berger vld. With 40.4gr. Of H4831 with cci primers. For load development I'm loading 5 rounds of the each of the 3 minimum loads. Can't wait to go shooting!
Wow, that does look long! Your 6.5x55 wouldn't be a Howa 1500 by any chance? (I have never been able to reach the lands in mine, even with 160 gr bullets)
 
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