Deer Hunter
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Texas A&M has the same system. I havn't given them my phone number, though.
I'm sure glad I can't carry a gun on my campus...
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koja48
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if I wore a habit every day I would pack the biggest iron I could find
Aha! That explains why the Nuns could intimidate us so years ago . . . they all carried Thompsons or trenchguns under the cape . . .
Aha! That explains why the Nuns could intimidate us so years ago . . . they all carried Thompsons or trenchguns under the cape . . .
Pax Jordana
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I was gonna grouse about expulsion, but now I have to figure out what the *heck* my school's policy means. I'll come back to this.
No lie - this guy could hide pistol gripped mossberg in his habit. Heck, he's built like a bouncer, it's not like he'd need it.
WELL! :banghead: That's about the dumest thing I ever heard! 
You can bet your bottom dollar that whatever email or text message is sent out will be either so late or so lacking in details that it will be useless. Its just another feel good thing they want to do rather than taking any effective but not PC action.
koja48
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I'll stick with situational awareness & double indemnity insurance, plus some "cutting edge" extras . . . 
koja48
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And I always was curious about Sister Mary Ithaca . . .
redneckrepairs
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memphisrain welcome , and i have to say that tho i am far beyond university age , and somewhat illiterate , i am pleased to have my daughter bettering herself with higher education . Its even better than in Colorado its a campus by campus issue , but in no event is it criminal to carry , just expellable . However at my little girls place there is NO policy either in support of nor against carry . She is 22 now and carrys some , many from here i suspect would know her from her blog ... anyway all i can say is obey both the laws and the " rules " you happen to be saddled with . neither will las for ever .
Be aware , Be alert , and Be well .
Be aware , Be alert , and Be well .
2TransAms
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At least it's a step in the right direction...or at least not in the wrong direction. I still don't see why a siren won't just as well if not better. You hear a siren? Lock the door and take cover. But then the kids locked out in the hall would be sitting ducks...unless they were armed. Which brings up a very good point,if at least two students are shooting at each other,how do the police (assuming that they get there in time) know who the good guy is? Hmm...all things to consider.
mbs357
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I don't have a cell phone.
Am I boned?
Am I boned?
jerkyman45
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Here our campus cops aren't even armed, they've got Interceptor Crown Vics, but no guns. Needless to say if something bad happens, we're pretty much on our own, and we don't have the benefit of the text message either.
IA_farmboy
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I heard on the radio recently that the Iowa Regent universities were considering arming their campus police forces. I remember that debate going on when I was in college. Perhaps the debate never ended.
I remember reading an article describing the situation when I was in school. The campus police officers were trained as any other police force, that included firearms training. Legally they had the police powers of a state or county trooper (I don't remember which) and the university land was owned by the state and was not city property.
The city police and campus police forces had some kind of agreement that one would back up the other. Also, while the campus police did not have firearms on their person or in their car they did have firearms locked up on campus. This was supposed to make us feel safer I guess. While they couldn't shoot us right away they could still call a city cop or a buddy at the station to come with guns drawn.
There were to be no weapons in the dorms but that didn't stop one guy from shooting my next door neighbor... with a pellet gun. It also didn't keep one of my buddies from having a set of throwing knives. A plastic mace (I think that is what it is called, a spiked ball on a chain?) was confiscated from a student by the Resident Assistant. It was PLASTIC!
I don't know what the policies were on campus, the dorms are a slightly different animal. I do remember that firearms were strictly verboten. I do recall seeing a few young ladies with pepper spray bottles on key rings. I've heard of one young lady defending herself with a sharpened pencil. (The guy attacked her from behind and was choking her by her headphone cord. She drove the pencil into his leg and both ran.) I'm glad they let us keep pencils in the dorms after that.
What did change since I was in school was that along with the debate on allowing the campus police to arm themselves there is also a debate on allowing the students to arm themselves. I kind of doubt the students will get the guns first.
I guess might point of my little brain dump is that the weapons policy is way out of whack. I guess that is on par with most schools. It does sound like the VA Tech shooting brought them a little closer to sanity though.
I remember reading an article describing the situation when I was in school. The campus police officers were trained as any other police force, that included firearms training. Legally they had the police powers of a state or county trooper (I don't remember which) and the university land was owned by the state and was not city property.
The city police and campus police forces had some kind of agreement that one would back up the other. Also, while the campus police did not have firearms on their person or in their car they did have firearms locked up on campus. This was supposed to make us feel safer I guess. While they couldn't shoot us right away they could still call a city cop or a buddy at the station to come with guns drawn.
There were to be no weapons in the dorms but that didn't stop one guy from shooting my next door neighbor... with a pellet gun. It also didn't keep one of my buddies from having a set of throwing knives. A plastic mace (I think that is what it is called, a spiked ball on a chain?) was confiscated from a student by the Resident Assistant. It was PLASTIC!
I don't know what the policies were on campus, the dorms are a slightly different animal. I do remember that firearms were strictly verboten. I do recall seeing a few young ladies with pepper spray bottles on key rings. I've heard of one young lady defending herself with a sharpened pencil. (The guy attacked her from behind and was choking her by her headphone cord. She drove the pencil into his leg and both ran.) I'm glad they let us keep pencils in the dorms after that.
What did change since I was in school was that along with the debate on allowing the campus police to arm themselves there is also a debate on allowing the students to arm themselves. I kind of doubt the students will get the guns first.
I guess might point of my little brain dump is that the weapons policy is way out of whack. I guess that is on par with most schools. It does sound like the VA Tech shooting brought them a little closer to sanity though.
Prince Yamato
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The University of Texas has had an emergency alert system in place since the Whitman shooting in 1967. It goes something like this:
1) Speakers on campus blast a tornado/ atomic bomb siren
2) Students all look around confused and go, "what the hell is that?"
3) Wait 5 minutes for message
So you basically stand around like a dunce and then the system says, "seek shelter immediately".
Also, given that most professors yell at students for having phones go off in class and can tell when you're checking email during their lectures, don't you think the chances that students most at danger (ie, in class, not in dorm rooms) will never get the message that someone is shooting up campus?
1) Speakers on campus blast a tornado/ atomic bomb siren
2) Students all look around confused and go, "what the hell is that?"
3) Wait 5 minutes for message
So you basically stand around like a dunce and then the system says, "seek shelter immediately".
Also, given that most professors yell at students for having phones go off in class and can tell when you're checking email during their lectures, don't you think the chances that students most at danger (ie, in class, not in dorm rooms) will never get the message that someone is shooting up campus?
macadore
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Interesting that you should bring up the Whitman case. After Whitman’s initial flurry, students with firearms started shooting back and kept Whitman penned down until the police could take him out. Today those students would be expelled and maybe arrested.
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