IN Chief of Police trying to not issue CCW permits...

[gc70]

The right to obtain a CCW permit is separate from the legality of a student having a firearm on campus. Heck, a student could live on campus, not have a firearm in their possession, and still have a CCW permit in their pocket.

 

[Autolycus]

I cannot find any law that says CCW on campus is a no-no. I think that Indiana considers a College/University different from a school that teaches Kindergarten-12th grade. I also plan to live off campus and I do not think my status as a student should require an extra loophole for me to jump through. I dont plan on CCWing on campus but my status as a student should not really matter and that is what chaps my behind.

 

[Don Gwinn]

Just talk to the IU chief and see what he says. You have an ace in the hole in that you know you can probably go around him legally if need be--what they're doing apparently is not legal in Indiana.

 

[Autolycus]

I will once I get there. I applied for a late admission and will know if I got into the school within a week or so. It will be nice to know for sure.

My friend said he would ask his dad if I could use his residence as an adress for a drivers license. I would also use this as the same license on my CCW permit. His father lives in Evansville. I hear that they are pretty gun friendly out that way. I figure they have to be more gun friendly than Bloomington.

 

[Lupinus]

you might need permission to carry on the campus property or to keep a gun in your dorm room. But what you do off campus the school has no control over so the campus PD should have no say. Perhaps you don't live on campus, perhaps you know a friend with guns and carry one of his on occasion, maybe you leave it at his house and everytime you go out stop there first and last. Who knows, but the possibilites of a college student being able to ccw are vast.

 

[chrisbob]

twice you have refered to using someone else's address to apply for a D.L. If you don't live there (someone already said ) this is fraudulent. If you use that info for a ccl this is also against the law
You talk about the law keeping you from a ccl. But some of the stuff you are willing to do to get it is the reason the laws are there

If you receive your ccl under fraudulent terms maybe you should not have one

you have not said wether you have one in Illinoise??? or not

 

[Autolycus]

I dont have a CCW from IL because IL does not issue them. I lived in Carbondale IL for the school year but kept my drivers license in my old addres from Chicago suburbs. Was that illegal?

I want to get a DL in Evansville is my buddy said it would also help with lowering the cost of tuition after a certain period. If I live off campus in Bloomington I would get a Bloomington address on my Drivers license.

And I do not believe it is against the law to have a rental house/apartment and not use it on your drivers license.

Chrisbob please reread my post again. I think your the only poster who has trouble understanding that I would still be in IN on paper just not at that address.

 

[chrisbob]

What I am saying is that a CCL requires the address where you will be living at so does the In. BMV for a D.L.

 

[trapperjohn]

Chrisbob:

NO ONE has one in Illinois, ILL is a NEVER issues state!


Tecumseh:
A residence is where you live. If you do not live there do not lie and claim it is your residence. On top of being dishonest, If you ever get busted your CCW would be considered invalid.

 

[Autolycus]

I dont think it is that big a deal but I wont if it is illegal. A lot of students I know use off campus addresses simply because there mail gets stolen a lot. THey will use a friend in a better neighborhoods address on the their DL rather than the one they live at.

I figure it is quite common.

I think that it may be dishonest but so is what the IU Police Chief and Bloomington Chief are trying to do.

 

[Autolycus]

Well I got in to IU. I am going apartment hunting this morning and will probably be living off campus. I will definately be applying for my permit and am excited because I have never had one before. How many days does it usually take?

 

[El Tejon]

To establish residency, or for the LTCH process?

 

[JBusch8899]

By IN code:

There is a 60 days statutory time limit to issue once your application is accepted by your local police dept.

Good thing you haven't had your heart set on a dorm.....I see they have been overbooked and students are rooming in the lounges.

 

[Art Eatman]

Re; Your address. It's one thing to have a mailing address; your residence address is another matter.

Example: My Texas DL and CHL both require a physical address. I get my mail from my box at the post office. There is NO street address where I live, out here in the boonies. My licenses give a distance and compass direction from the post office, and that satisfies officialdom. "Four miles NW of Terlingua PO" and nobody has ever checked to see if I'm lying.

You can use your actual residence address for your CHL, and are obligated to do so. You can get your mail at the corner beer joint, if you so desire.

Art

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

By IN code:

There is a 60 days statutory time limit to issue once your application is accepted by your local police dept.

Do they actually follow that in Indiana?

We have a similar law in Georgia and they sure do not follow it here!
http://www.georgiapacking.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=905

 

[JBusch8899]

Does the Indiana State Police follow it?

Do they actually follow that in Indiana?

We have a similar law in Georgia and they sure do not follow it here!

Yes they do. The ISP personnel in that office are friendly folks as well.

Though, I'm sure that Indiana could do it in 2 weeks, as New Hampshire does.

 

[kludge]

Watch out on the residency requirements. If you came from aother state to go to school in Indiana, then you may be treated as a non-resident as long as you are in school. Please check! When I graduated from college, my wife and I moved to Ohio (from Indiana). She was not allowed to attend an Ohio state school as a resident for one year, and if we did not wait she would be charged out of state tuition for the rest of her classes. If the state college treats you as a non-resident, so might the State Police. YMMV.

After four years of Ohio I had enough and moved back to Indiana. Now they have CCW too.

 

[Prince Yamato]

Watch out on the residency requirements. If you came from aother state to go to school in Indiana, then you may be treated as a non-resident as long as you are in school.

The school residency requirement has no bearing on your actual residency in most states. The schools impliment that rule so that all the out of state students don't immediately declare residency of whatever state their school is in and thus pay the lower amount of in state tuition. The school makes more money that way. All states (I think this is federal law) require you to surrender your drivers liscence after ~30-90days within the state if you intend to make that state your residence (ie, become employed there), the exception would be if you were only going there as a student and working on campus (ie, TAship or similar)... though even as a student, you could still choose residency in that state and pay instate tuition your second year.

Also, if in doubt, assume that whatever campus you are on DOES NOT allow CCW. Most campuses even forbid pepper spray, but campus police will look the other way most of the time on that (provided you don't have the bear-sized can with you). You can enquire about CCW, but you usually have to get a dispensation from the Dean, who will more than likely be a wack-job liberal who will put you on his ScheisseBrief as a potential trouble maker.

While I personally think that CCW would be more affective than those stupid call-boxes around campus, I doubt most deans have the political, cerebral, or testicular fortitude to implement such a policy on their campuses.

 

[stlgunfan]

Here is the question. How will they know your going to school there? I call BS!

Here in MO ots not against the law to have a firearm in your car on school grounds.