In light of recent events should we lay low?

[moooose102]

i have no intention of "laying low" on my shooting "habit". i will continue to shoot as i always have, which basicly means when i want, where i want. the media, which is the definition of anti-gun, will always portray anything they are against as "nuts". they claim it is their "right" to shove their ideals down other peoples throats. not just report the truth.

 

[Deanimator]

I don't let people who don't care one whit about me tell me how to think about myself, nor how to present myself.

Right after Columbine, a friend and I stopped in Starbucks on the way back from the range. As usual, I was wearing an NRA ballcap. The slacker behind the counter said to me unsolicited, "Boy, it must take a lot of guts to wear that cap these days!". I replied, "Why? Who's going to make me take it off?"

A few years ago, I was in a MacDonalds in Lakewood, Ohio. One of the elderly cleaners started hassling me for [again] wearing an NRA ballcap, to include talking about "banning" the NRA. I noted to him that the last time we started doing things like that, we misplaced 6,000,000 Jews somewhere along the way. His response was that he wasn't sure that was really such a bad thing. That's the mindset of the people who want us to self-censor: Guns bad, Holocaust good. Scratch an anti-gunner, find a fascist. They're welcome to bite me... or try.

"Lay low"? No, I don't want to.

Don't like it? Hold your breath until you can't see or hear me any more.

 

[Sav .250]

When you start acting like part of the problem......the end can`t be to
far off.

Or, if you break ranks, you loose all advantage.

 

[FiremanBob]

In fact, the real solution is the opposite of "gun control". If our right to keep and bear arms both open and concealed without government regulation were restored, the incidence of this type of crime would fall to near zero. The deranged people who commit these massacres are cowards (as are the street thugs who commit other types of violent crime). If they knew their "victims" could defend themselves, that they stood a good chance of being killed within 30 seconds of attempting their attacks and that their claim on 15 minutes of notoriety would definitely be denied, they wouldn't do it.

This logical explanation of the solution is something that the media should consider adding to the national conversation. Anyone whom the media interviews about these crimes should take the opportunity to make it public.

 

[Deanimator]

In fact, the real solution is the opposite of "gun control". If our right to keep and bear arms both open and concealed without government regulation were restored, the incidence of this type of crime would fall to near zero. The deranged people who commit these massacres are cowards (as are the street thugs who commit other types of violent crime). If they knew their "victims" could defend themselves, that they stood a good chance of being killed within 30 seconds of attempting their attacks and that their claim on 15 minutes of notoriety would definitely be denied, they wouldn't do it.

This logical explanation of the solution is something that the media should consider adding to the national conversation. Anyone whom the media interviews about these crimes should take the opportunity to make it public.

Yes, but when you defend yourself, you "escalate the violence" and "lose the moral high ground". If you don't let evil people murder you, others won't LIKE you. You want people to LIKE you, DON'T you? And isn't being dead only a small price for being LIKED?

Of course the "moral high ground" that these retards talk about isn't really a "high ground" so much as it's a ravine... "Babi Yar" is the name I think. But hey, they LIKE the people buried at Babi Yar, not like the Bielski brothers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bielski_partisans) they hate for fighting back...

 

[FiremanBob]

A momentary, well-aimed escalation of the violence will dramatically decrease the total amount of violence in that situation. Sounds like a good trade to me. But further, I believe that the violence would not be initiated at all if the would-be killer knew the overwhelming odds of failing.

(I know you weren't serious, hence my bad pun above, but this is exactly the kind of dialogue that needs to be aired publicly.)

 

[JoeSF]

The shootings show there is a failure of the government and the police to protect even themselves let alone the public. The shootings are just part of a list of tragedies committed by sick people and criminals. The eco nut unibomber Ted Kazinsky killed for years without guns.

If you think about it there are compelling reasons to argue for strict adherence to the 2nd amendment now more than ever. William Ayers,a former member of the weatherman, a group that attacked police and public places with bombs is a friend of the President of the United States. Sanctuary cities ignore federal immigration and drug laws allowing La Mecha gang members to prey on lawful citizens. Cop killers like Mumia Jamal are celebrated as heroes and given radio shows and speaking tours while in prison. The government cannot protect the borders and when citizens try to themselves they are harassed by the government. The only sherriff in Arizona enforcing federal immigation laws is harassed by his government. The secretary of state Hillary Clinton and Senator Diane Feinstein delberately ignore the open borders problem and lie about the statistics of weapons origin in a violent Mexico.
The shootings are unfortunate tragedies. We need the second Amendment now more than ever. Remind anyone who tells you differently why.


S.F.police union accuses Ayers in 1970 bombing

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/03/12/BATK16DHA4.DTL&type=printable


Suit: Sanctuary policy a factor in 3 killings

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/artic...2E16SH8G.DTL&hw=sanctuary+city&sn=001&sc=1000


Controversial Arizona Sheriff Snubbed by House Panel on Immigration
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio couldn't defend himself because the use didn't invite him.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/200...zona-sheriff-snubbed-house-panel-immigration/


Mumia Abu-Jamal's Radio Broadcasts
http://www.prisonradio.org/mumia.htm

Commentary: U.S. freedoms not to blame for Mexico's drug war

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/26/lapierre.guns.mexico/


Gangs Blamed for 80 Percent of U.S. Crimes

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/FedCrimes/story?id=6773423&page=1