Indiana Lifetime Permit

[Nick1911]

So Indiana has now introduced a lifetime CCW permit, right?

My question is, even though my permit doesn't expire for a year or two, can I apply for a lifetime permit now? Does anyone have a link about the process, or the rules and regs?

Thanks!

 

[kludge]

http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2006/ES/ES0054.2.html

 

[ServiceSoon]

It looks like you can "upgrade" to a lifetime permit at any time. It is $100 to do so in Elkhart. Sweet! From the looks of the bill there wasnt any items added to decrease our rights. Usually you have to take the good with the bad. I cant think of the terminology; when a law is added to a bill that gets approved that wouldnt of been able to get approved on its own....

 

[cordex]

From the looks of the bill there wasnt any items added to decrease our rights.

The "poison pill" was the fact that your dealer's 4473s are to be copied and sent to ISP every month. No one is quite sure how that will play out.

It looks like you can "upgrade" to a lifetime permit at any time.

I'm not sure. A friend of mine just went into Danville and tried to get his lifetime license. They told him he'd have to wait until his existing permit was within six months of expiring.

Has anyone here tried to get theirs yet?

 

[Kcustom45]

I am Cordex's friend and it is true when I went to get my permit today I was told that my current permit has to be within 6 moths of expiring before I can get a lifetime license.

I am just going to paste a write up I did for another website (www.BenSwenson.com)

I got off work early today and thought I would go get my lifetime permit today. I was wrong.

For those of you who currently have permits you have to wait until six months before your current permit expires before you can get a lifetime license. Since mine does not expire until July of 2009 I have a bit of a wait.

For those of you that do not have a permit you will need a $75 MONEY ORDER made payable to the State of Indiana and $52 in cash (Exact denomination) for the sheriff fee and notary fee.

For those you that do have a permit that will expire in 6 months of if it is getting close you will need a $60 MONEY ORDER made payable to the State of Indiana and $42 in cash (Exact denomination) for the sheriff fee and notary fee.

I hope this helps so that some of you will not have to waste your time going down to the courthouse only to have them tell you that you do not yet qualify.

 

[exar]

I hope this helps so that some of you will not have to waste your time going down to the courthouse only to have them tell you that you do not yet qualify.

Actually, I was going to go down on break today. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Nick1911]

Bah, I have to wait until early 2008 in that case.

At least they enacted the legislation. I hope it's still an option in 2008.

-Nick

 

[DF357]

Mass. had a 'lifetime' permit back in the 60's.

My 'lifetime' permit died after about 20 years when they changed it's lifetime to 3 years. Then a few years later the lifetime became 5 years.

You lifetime permit depends on 2 things:

1) how long you live
2) how long before they decide they're losing money by not issuing you a new one every couple of years.

 

[jfnemeth]

I have emailed the IN AG in regards to applying for the Lifetime license prior to the 180 day renewal period. Since I just renewed my LTCH I'll be sort of dissapointed if I can't upgrade for another 3.5 years.

The code does say:

SECTION 4. IC 35-47-2-6 IS AMENDED TO READ AS FOLLOWS [EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 2006]: Sec. 6. (a) Every initial application for any license under this chapter shall be granted or rejected within sixty (60) days after the application is filed.
(b) The period during which an application for the renewal of an existing license may be filed begins one hundred eighty (180) days before the expiration of the existing license. If the application for renewal of an existing license is filed within thirty (30) days of its expiration, the existing license is automatically extended until the application for renewal is passed upon.

Emphasis added.

My contention is that since I am effectively applying for a license of a different type (longer term, larger cost) it is not a "renewal" but a fresh application.

We'll see if the AG responds.

 

[jfnemeth]

Re-reading the code again I notice it says "Every initial application for any license"

To me that means that there is more than one type of license so every first time application for a lifetime license would be an "intial application" even if one already had a different type of license like a 4yr LTCH.

'Course I'm probably reading it all wrong......

 

[ServiceSoon]

Synopsis: "Provides that the period during which an application for the renewal of a handgun license may be filed begins 180 days before the license expires, and specifies that an application for a lifetime handgun license may be filed at any time."

Am I only reading the part I want to?

 

[cordex]

I just called Hendricks County Sheriff's Department and they said they were acting under direction from the Indiana State Police.

I'm contacting them now.

 

[cordex]

Here is the email I sent:

A friend of mine went to the Hendricks County Sheriff's Department today to apply for a lifetime handgun carry permit. They wouldn't accept his application and told him that he had to wait until his permit was within six months of expiring.

I called the department and they told me that they were working on instructions from the Indiana State Police.

SENATE BILL No. 54 can be found here:
http://www.in.gov/legislative/bills/2006/ES/ES0054.2.html

It would appear that effective July 1, 2006, IC 35-47-2-6 has been modified to read as follows:

**************
6. (a) Every initial application for any license under this chapter shall be granted or rejected within sixty (60) days after the application is filed.
(b) The period during which an application for the renewal of an existing license may be filed begins one hundred eighty (180) days before the expiration of the existing license. If the application for renewal of an existing license is filed within thirty (30) days of its expiration, the existing license is automatically extended until the application for renewal is passed upon. An application for a lifetime license may be filed at any time.
**************

If that is accurate, shouldn't applications for lifetime licenses be accepted at any time, not just within six months of expiration?

Thank you,
Ben

Here is the reply I received:

From: Shelton, Doug (********@isp.state.in.us)
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:31 AM
To: ***@benswenson.com
Subject: RE: Lifetime Handgun Carry Permit Question

Mr. Swenson,

Senate bill 54 is not the bill that passed through the Legislature. It was actually HB 1176. The language in 1176 is 180 days prior to the expiration of your current license. The Hendricks County Sheriff's Department provided correct information.

Captain Douglas E. Shelton
Indiana State Police
Records Division
Acting Commander
IGCN Rm.304
Indianapolis, IN 46204

Looks like we've got to wait until 6 months prior to our expiration.

*sigh*

 

[zoom6zoom]

Virginia goes lifetime July 1, 2007!

 

[exar]

Congrats, VA

 

[Jspy]

I picked up my forms on Monday, and just have to fill them out, notarized, etc. and I will be on my way. My current permit expires next month. Definately a good deal as opposed to renewing every few years. There was a big write-up on the front page of the Indy Star this week about this, and of course the nay-sayers think its an outrage.

 

[Wild Deuce]

Do not mean to hijack the thread but it seems to fit in with my question so I will post here instead of starting a new thread. I've already tried on another thread but no replies yet so I'm resurrecting this one.

What is the current waiting period for the new Lifetime LCH (or even a standard four year license)? I've read at the ISP website that it could be as long as 12 weeks but I'm hearing rumors that it is now longer.

 

[Mark whiz]

I got my permit this past year - It took about 5 months from when I handed them the info forms until it arrived in the mail. I went and talked to the city Police Chief after about 3 months and he said they were inundated with requests right after the law took affect and they were just running months behind at the State level.

 

[loki.fish]

Some resurrection.

My first 4 year permit took maybe 2 months. When I renewed for the lifetime permit it took 4-5 months. The Sherrif's deparment said that since the lifetimes have come out it's causing longer than normal wait times as the ISP is trying to keep up with all the applications.

 

[kludge]

Do not mean to hijack the thread but it seems to fit in with my question so I will post here instead of starting a new thread. I've already tried on another thread but no replies yet so I'm resurrecting this one.

Two hours isn't fast enough for ya?

 

[Wild Deuce]

I was hoping to get my permit withing those two hours.

I checked before posting here and the other post was on the verge of going to the second page. The title of this one was also closer to what I wanted since it was what I applied for ... Lifetime.

 

[mp510]

Virginia goes lifetime July 1, 2007!

Will that option be available for non-residents as well?

 

[ServiceSoon]

Sherrif's deparment said that since the lifetimes have come out it's causing longer than normal wait times as the ISP is trying to keep up with all the applications.

That makes no sense. It's not like people are rushing to obtain new permits because they are lifetime and if you currently have a permit you have to wait 6 months until its expiration before filing for a new one. There is another reason it takes longer than before.

 

[Greg.B]

I mailed off my paperwork on 11/15/07 and received my LTCH (lifetime) in the mail on 12/31/07. Pretty much in line with the time frame I was told when I started the process.

 

[Owen]

What are teh requirements to get a permit in IN?