Info wanted on the Beretta UGB25XCel semi auto

[SeekHer]

Has anyone any experience with the Beretta UGB25XCel 12 bore only semi auto...performance, reliability, recoil management, fit and handling?

I'm totally enamoured. nay, awe struck with the design and have been since I saw and handled a 20 bore C o s m i at a gun show many years ago and this comes closet and for a third the price...

The catalogue specs and description are great but I'd like to get some opinions prior to me getting one sent to my dealer, where I would have to pay shipping/handling costs both directions and brokerage fees (if any), for me to get to handle it..

At this time, I am not interested in any other gun(s) other then a Cosmi--which I believe was the inspiration for the UGB and that one I'd order as a 16 bore--Unless there is another, similar design, that I'm not aware of! I/we have more then enough O/U, SxS and semi autos for all my/our shooting and hunting needs...

This is strictly for the three of us (me, myself and I) a want gun that will be used for its intended design, occasionally hitting flying clay circles and major, heavy duty bragging rights--if it's worth it!





Beretta UGB25


Cosmi

 

[joedapro]

i followed it's development for a while. it seemed to have a lot of malfunction issues. i don't know if they worked it out or not. find actual users before you buy. now since i am no longer enamoured i wonder if it was a solution for a nonexistant problem.

 

[throdgrain]

A bloke I know has one, I saw him shoot clays with it the other day.

I couldnt see the point of it really, it was reliable and everything but he has a dozen of other shotguns and this one wasnt better or worse than any of them. As has been said, fixing a non existant problem I reckon

 

[oneounceload]

The main reason I was given was that it enabled people to shoot a semi for recoil reduction, that allowed folks to instantaneously tell, even from a distance, that the gun was broken open and safe

Whether that question needed to be answered here, compared to Europe, is another matter

 

[ArmedBear]

Whether that question needed to be answered here, compared to Europe, is another matter

There are some Americans who shoot Trap with the training wheels off.

Olympic disciplines require break-action guns. So do NAVHDA, and as I understand it, other dog training/testing organizations.

Also, even some American Trap shooters might want a single-barrel gun that is good for doubles, so their gun handling is the same for singles and doubles.

I have handled the things, not shot them. They're actually quite attractive in person -- more so than in pictures. Well-balanced, too.

Most semiautos are less-than ideal for shooting doubles, since you can't completely load them until you are ready to fire. The UGB can hold both rounds, yet remain open. This helps with one's concentration when shooting, when compared to dropping one in the receiver, then closing the bolt and shoving one in the bottom when ready to shoot. Semiautos can lead to a lot of fumbling on the line: the UGB addresses this.

I haven't gone out and bought one or anything. However, I have most certainly seen and experienced some of the issues it addresses.

 

[oneounceload]

As a LH, I like the bottom ejection. If I waas in the market for a serious semi, it would get a look over

 

[Pete409]

I don't own one of the UGB25XCel guns and I've never shot one. Let's analyze what it is and what it isn't.

To me, it's a semi-auto which is limited to 2 shot capacity. That's fine for clay target games. The second shell is on the outside of the gun. That's OK too.

The gun functions like a semi-auto. Nothing wrong with that if that's what you want. The gun still throws the empty shells on the ground........ just like a semi-auto.The only significant difference that I can see is that the gun breaks open like an O/U or single shot gun. If this feature is important to you, then that is something to consider.

If, on the other hand, you would rather have a gun that offers the choice of two different chokes and also will deposit the empty shells in your hand when the gun is opened, then the O/U is the way to go.

I tend to be in the camp of those who say it is the answer to a non-existent problem, but if having a break-open semi-auto is important to you, then go for it.

 

[ArmedBear]

Some shooters really like the feel of a single, not an O/U. (I like O/Us myself.)

This is a single that shoots doubles.

Corrolary: it's no more an answer to a nonexistent question than a barrel set with O/U and over-single.

It does have a place in international disciplines (whether shot here or abroad).

 

[k80]

Some UGB experiences and opinions can be found on trapshooters .com:
http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partne...4:if5srl-w3qv&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=ugb25&sa=Search

 

[SeekHer]

That is exactly the kind of info that I wanted and I thank you profusely—may you be thrice blessed!

After reading through the posts from this one that you linked to, it looks like I’m going to be ordering one for myself for this late summer or early fall trap sessions…Will call in the morning and place the order…but I still want a Cosmi!