Input On Revolver For Wife ---

[Barry the Bear]

If it's not a purse configured for carrying a handgun concealed, my wife (and daughter) would rather go unarmed-and don't bother citing the many reasons why a proper holster might be a better idea. They've heard the arguments and don't want to wear a holster; simple as that.

Then to paraphrase a common saying, don't complain when something bad happens

 

[ThomasT]

If you're talking about clipping a coil or two off the mainspring (a common "remedy" for lessening the pull pounds off a J-frame), I'm not interested in flirting with light primer strikes on a revolver intended for self-defense.

No thats not what I am talking about at all. Any gunsmith worthy of the name can smooth and improve the trigger pull on a S&W J-Frame.

 

[bannockburn]

This is the first and only revolver I bought for my wife. Only thing she didn't like was the original S&W grip which I replaced with a Hogue MonoGrip that she loves. She's always welcome to try any other gun in my collection but for now this is the only one she wants to shoot and I'm good with that.

 

[SteadyD]

I really would not rule out the LCR 327. The recoil of a 32 magnum is much more comfortable than a 38 and the limited testing performed by Lucky Gunner showed the Hornady Critical Defense performed well, and even 32 long wad cutters had good penetration. How does she feel about the recoil from an air weight j frame? I don’t recall if you said she has shot one or not.

 

[SteadyD]

The Kimber K6s is almost identical in size to a j frame. They even fit the same holsters.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Some of y'all brought up women that prefer autoloaders to revolvers. I kept out of that discussion until now, because this is in the revolver forum.

However, the women I know that shoot fairly regularly and the women I know that actually have a concealed carry license all prefer autoloaders.

The two women I know with a carry license carry a S&W 3913LS and a S&W M&P Shield EZ, both in 9mm and both their choices after trying out other guns.

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My wife’s first carry gun was a Colt DS made in ‘56. It’s still her favorite for a purse but she also has a PK380 Walther that is one of her favorites for the range. She picks her own stuff and I pick up the tab.

One of the LGS new employees tried to sell her a pink Taurus of some kind once. Only once. He didn’t last long.

That’s my wife. Ymmv

 

[SwampWolf]

Then to paraphrase a common saying, don't complain when something bad happens

Why should I complain? Who are you to presume to dictate the proper mode of carrying a concealed weapon for everyone and anyone?

 

[SwampWolf]

No thats not what I am talking about at all. Any gunsmith worthy of the name can smooth and improve the trigger pull on a S&W J-Frame.

How does "any gunsmith worthy of the name" reduce the da trigger pull in terms of weight of pull (which is the objection we are talking about with J-frame revolvers, not how "smooth" the pull is) without addressing the "strength" of the mainspring?

 

[ThomasT]

How does "any gunsmith worthy of the name" reduce the da trigger pull in terms of weight of pull (which is the objection we are talking about with J-frame revolvers, not how "smooth" the pull is) without addressing the "strength" of the mainspring?

Sounds to me like that would be a question for the gunsmith doesn't it? If you don't want your gun worked on or improved then leave it like it is. Wasn't that simple?

 

[Barry the Bear]

Why should I complain? Who are you to presume to dictate the proper mode of carrying a concealed weapon for everyone and anyone?

No one said you yourself, you spoke of the women in your family, but common sense dictates if your not going to carry a weapon based on whatever decision you cannot complain of an event that may happen in which you needed your weapon and yet didn't have it.

 

[SwampWolf]

Sounds to me like that would be a question for the gunsmith doesn't it?

OK, I'm fine with the fact that you don't know. No need to ask any gunsmith to explain how it's possible to significantly reduce the weight of pull without trimming the mainspring because they should know it's impossible.

 

[ThomasT]

OK, I'm fine with the fact that you don't know. No need to ask any gunsmith to explain how it's possible to significantly reduce the weight of pull without trimming the mainspring because they should know it's impossible.

Oh I know perfectly well. Its just not worth my time to explain it to you. And yes it will most likely involve lighter springs. And people have been putting Apex spring kits in their snub 38s for years with perfect reliability. But I do not clip springs as you stated earlier. Thats why Wolfe is in business. So like I stated if you don't want to do it then don't. My response was for the OP anyway.

And I never said it would be "significant". Those are your words. I said they can be improved.

 

[SwampWolf]

No one said you yourself,

True, I don't carry a purse.

you spoke of the women in your family,

Yes, I did.

but common sense dictates if your not going to carry a weapon based on whatever decision you cannot complain of an event that may happen in which you needed your weapon and yet didn't have it.

What "common sense"? They (my wife and daughter) carry their guns in a purse configured to carry a concealed pistol. They have a weapon when they need it. If you don't think that's sufficient (as opposed to not having one), I can't help you. It's our business; stay out of it is my advice.

 

[Waveski]

How does "any gunsmith worthy of the name" reduce the da trigger pull in terms of weight of pull (which is the objection we are talking about with J-frame revolvers, not how "smooth" the pull is) without addressing the "strength" of the mainspring?

We are straying a bit , but my answer to that question is : Swap out the rebound spring. And while we are at it , reduction of friction has to reduce trigger pull weight somewhat , even without any spring changes.

 

[Waveski]

This is the first and only revolver I bought for my wife. Only thing she didn't like was the original S&W grip which I replaced with a Hogue MonoGrip that she loves. She's always welcome to try any other gun in my collection but for now this is the only one she wants to shoot and I'm good with that.
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Model , please?

 

[Barry the Bear]

True, I don't carry a purse.



Yes, I did.



What "common sense"? They (my wife and daughter) carry their guns in a purse configured to carry a concealed pistol. They have a weapon when they need it. If you don't think that's sufficient (as opposed to not having one), I can't help you. It's our business; stay out of it is my advice.

You decided to interject when I made a comment advising the OPs decision in regards to his original post, it seems like you want to justify your family's methods of carry to a post that advises against it and for good reason, there is no nothing further to discuss as you said I shouldn't interject into your business that you blatantly put out there.

 

[SwampWolf]

And I never said it would be "significant". Those are your words. I said they can be improved.

Yes, they are my words and for this reason: "improving" the da trigger pull on a typical J-frame revolver in terms of reducing the weight of pull had better be significant or it doesn't amount to much. My wife, as well as many others in this thread, struggle to master the da pull on these revolvers. Just to say that a gunsmith can "improve" the trigger (again, in terms of the weight of pull) doesn't say much. If the weight of pull is reduced even two or three pounds, it might well help but not nearly enough to offset the problem.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

OK, I'm fine with the fact that you don't know. No need to ask any gunsmith to explain how it's possible to significantly reduce the weight of pull without trimming the mainspring because they should know it's impossible.

Wolf springs. Look them up. Replace isn’t trim or cut. It’s replace. There’s a difference.

 

[SwampWolf]

you said I shouldn't interject into your business

Yep, we agree there.

 

[ThomasT]

swampwolf I guess it really comes down to hand strength doesn't it? I have 7 J-Frame revolvers and have never changed any of the springs and I sure as hell didn't clip any springs. And I have never swapped springs on my K and N frame guns either. They are all factory sprung. And like Barry The Bear just said to you, I have nothing further to discuss with you either. Adios.

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Waveski is the op. He asked for advice. The other poster hijacked the thread. Waveski asked a legitimate question.

I never did see any information from the op about custom handloads or classic older revolvers. Those may be important deciding factors.

 

[bannockburn]

Waveski

It's a S&W Model 34 with a 4" barrel. It was like new in the box when I got it from an old friend of mine who use to work part time at a local gun shop.

 

[SwampWolf]

Wolf springs. Look them up. Replace isn’t trim or cut. It’s replace.

I don't know how much difference a change of springs constitutes in terms of weight of pull but I was addressing Thomas T's assertion that "any gunsmith worthy of the name can smooth and improve the trigger pull on an S&W J-Frame". No amount of "smoothing" will "significantly" change the weight of pull. I have no idea how much changing springs (nothing a gunsmith needs to be involved with in any case) will reduce the da trigger pull of a typical J-frame revolver but it better be a lot for some folks to adequately manage it.

 

[Waveski]

I can tell you from personal experience that changing springs will have significant effect on trigger pull , also that polishing contact surfaces (done by someone more qualified than me) has significant effect.
I know these things to be factually true.
Guns are mass produced machines. There is great variation between individual specimens, and there is room and opportunity for significant improvement by implementing good and proper gunsmithing techniques.

Now , what were we talking about again???

 

[GeoDudeFlorida]

Waveski

It's a S&W Model 34 with a 4" barrel. It was like new in the box when I got it from an old friend of mine who use to work part time at a local gun shop.

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Nice! A .22 six shooter. Versatile and easy to wield. Your wife has good taste.