Interesting statistical chart---Obama & firearms.....

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There has been a noticeable increase in Female shoppers at my store. They are active, engaged, and seeking knowledge about firearm sports and defense. Last week a very nice female customer I have been working with asked if I could provide an after hours training session in our range for her and some of her friends. Apparently all of these woman have been through the local LEO citizens academy and the local NRA safety course (which only uses .22s) They want to practice in a controlled environment with their own chosen weapons. Model 10s, Bersa 380s. Sig238s.. But have someone there to point out the more nuanced parts of shooting. Their reasons are varied, self defense, liked a previous shooting experience, saw a competitive female shooter on TV. Our sport really is making movement toward mainstream. I am convinced that the best way to encourage this is to be respectable and keep away from the aforementioned tinfoil.
 
The author is a tool, but what do you expect from "Bloomberg"?

He has his facts wrong. It is not just "gun enthusiasts" buying guns to assemble arsnenals....:rolleyes: It is women, and first time gun buyers that are spiking sales. Average people are starting to realize that the police can not protect them.
 
The President nominates Justices but they have to be confirmed by the Senate; which is elected by YOU.
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The Senate is essentially a rubber stamp. It is customary for the senate to approve the President's nominees for the SCOTUS. Kagan and Sotomayor are as anti-gun as they come, but they got approved. When was the last time a liberal justice did not get approved by the Senate?

You are dreaming if you want to rely on the Senate to stop Obama's next appointments.
 
You are assuming that I want Obama's next appointments to be stopped. ;)

Your question led me to research a little and you have made an excellent point: I only made it back to 1900 but from then until now, no Democratic president's nominations have been rejected by the Senate. Good call.
 
Well thank you sir. I appreciate your candor and perspective.

I really do wish we did have a say in who is appointed to the Supreme Court. Well, actually we do in electing the President. That is why the next election is so important. I don't want to give Obama the ability to appoint any more anti gun judges.
 
I look at this discussion and shake my head.

The assumption is just automaticlly made that Romney appointees would be more 2a friendly. His record as Massachusetts govenor really doesn't bear this out.

LUCKILY! The supreme court justices most likely to retire are also the most liberal ones. So the makeup of the court really doesn't stand to be changed much. Which is a good thing since at this point we ARE GOING to end up with a blatantly anti 2a gun banning liberal for a president. Even if by some miracle the Republicans quit being stupid long enough to win an election.

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we ARE GOING to end up with a blatantly anti 2a gun banning liberal for a president. Even if by some miracle the Republicans quit being stupid long enough to win an election.
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This has been a pretty peaceful thread (amazingly) Lets not jump off the cliff now.
 
So I was reading a story about an unarmed black kid killed in Florida by some dumba$$ community watch guy. This guy appearantly followed the "suspicious person" then confronted him. The kid, walking home to his dad's house told him where he could stick it and a fight ensued. The guy shot him and as yet hasn't been charged. I posted several comments about the tragedy of it and how the guy was just another scared punk who wanted to use his gun. Still, the liberal swarm was too great. They were calling for banning guns and it was some how related to Obama hatred and everything else. I tried to interject some logic but my posts were not approved. How do libs justify their hatred for the first amendment when what is said is a dissenting opinion?
 
"...I submit that the "gun owners are all paranoid lunatics" narrative is incorrect, and one that the mass media has doggedly foisted onto the public because they really dislike the actual truth:..."

That certainly is incorrect, I'm not paranoid.
 
without dabbling into politics i've seen a parallel to this argument in the (way too many) car blogs and sites i read...any movement towards increasing mpg instantly has everybody declaring the end of the world, no more sports cars, no more horsepower, blah, blah, blah...and yet the 580 hp camaro zl-1 has just been introduced and the ford mustang gt500 is coming out soon with over 600 hp from the factory (and there are plenty more examples of how raising fleet average mpg doesn't push the sports car into extinction)...

this is my way of echoing what hso said, basically...folks have a tendency to cry "game over!" without realizing their current situation is actually pretty good, and often better than not long ago...
 
In post #58 the reasoning libs use to justify their position is by using emotions and not logic/historic results. There are some that will never "get it" with respect to firearms just as they believe the the government would never do anything wrong/hurt them.:banghead: The local firearms buying spree has been fueled by a growing Bath Salts epidemic and the public wanting extra protection that any local LEO can't hope to provide.
 
Obama didn't do a thing to affect gun sales. We, the gun community, went on an irrational fear driven buying spree, running up prices and making guns and ammo scarce, in fear of a gun ban that was never even attempted
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Bingo!!!
We are into our second iteration of the world as we know it is ending. According to the scurrilous shills for the ammo suppliers, gunbrokers, mom and pop gun stores, pawn shop and gun shows, the world as we know it will end on January 21, 2013.
 
Perhaps even more important than the raw sales numbers is the fact that a large number of these gun purchasers are first time buyers, with a growing percentage being women, both young and old. And contrary to the media spin that the increase in gun sales is due to more people participating in “sporting” activities, the fact is that the primary reason most people give when asked why they are buying a gun is “for protection.”
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Guys, one more time. It is just not gun enthusiasts buying more guns.

http://www.redstate.com/cmndr45/201...-an-indicator-of-the-real-state-of-the-union/
 
Ha... I love all the people that forget congress makes laws. Still, I would be lying if I said my collection had not exponentially grown in the past 4 years. 3 guns became ??? well at least 6 times that, but I am most certainly not done yet. Of course that likely would have happened anyways, it's not like they are more pretty and fun because of a panic.

From post #17

Laws are usually made by Congress-unless made by Pres (executive orders) Czars (regulations), rules (TSA-groping)

Obama has prevented many thousands of M1 rifles from coming back from Korea-too dangerous for someone?? for that many guns to be in the US.
 
Maybe if Obama loses the upcoming election gun and ammo prices will drop. Panic buying or whatever it is going on with gun buyers is pushing prices up so maybe if things calm down prices will go back down a bit.
 
The facts are the facts. We are buying more out of fear of what the present administration can and will do. Thank goodness, he had not appointed a Gun Czar; yet.

DO NOT RE-Elect the current guy. One Big Awful Mistake America.

Not all of us are buying; a bunch of my friends lost their jobs due to his ignorant handling of economic matters.
 
CONgress passes laws, the President can only sign or veto.

It's the supreme court nominations that are key and Obama has dealt gun owners two bad apples so far. Another term of our current president and the Supreme court will be a decidedly different body.

Of course Romney may give us more "corporations are people" justices.
 
How would you deal with a corporation if not for the legal fiction that a corporation is a 'person'. To sue an entity it has to be a person, you can't really deal with an amorphous group of people. If the Federal Government gives permission to allow itself to be sued, it's also dealt with as though it was a person. It's not stupidity it's a very handy convention to legally deal with groups of persons, it would be rather difficult to sue Westinghouse if you had to subpoena all it's employees or executives at all levels to the courthouse.
 
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How would you deal with a corporation if not for the legal fiction that a corporation is a 'person'. To sue an entity it has to be a person, you can't really deal with an amorphous group of people. If the Federal Government gives permission to allow itself to be sued, it's also dealt with as though it was a person. It's not stupidity it's a very handy convention to legally deal with groups of persons, it would be rather difficult to sue Westinghouse if you had to subpoena all it's employees or executives at all levels to the courthouse.
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complicated by circumstances such as when corporations commit crimes, need bailouts in order to keep the entire economy from collapsing, etc. also, i think equating corporations to individuals when it comes to campaign contributions ain't all that bright either...
 
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