is a hole in a mosin nagent chamber fixable?

[leftym4]

i want to replace the dark barrel in my nagent and came across a guy who has a barrel (still attached to the receiver and trigger group )for $10

the guy said there is a hole where someone had tried to mount a scope mount on it and drilled all the way into the tail end of the chamber

i pretty much consider this as junk but thought i would out if it was fixable by taking it out of the receiver fill weld the hole then put into another receiver that does not have a hole that would keep the weld from popping out but i would wondering what others might think of this

 

[justashooter in pa]

welding is not the answer. on a low dollar gun like this a new barrel is in order. if a high dollar gun with a barrel that was particularly difficult to replace i would pull it and tap the hole to run in a grade 8 screw with high temperature thread locker, finish it flush inside and out, then install in a good receiver.

 

[chestnut ridge]

You could probably fix that drilled barrel; and it might be serviceable.
I would not take the risk. If it split for some reason; the shooter
could be injured. Medical bills are high; decent replacement barrels
are cheap. Also it is easier to concentrate on trigger control and
sight picture when you don't have the worry of a suspect barrel.

 

[GRIZ22]

Welding changes the heat treatment of the metal. It may or may not work. Given those to options and the possibility of doing physical damage to myself I'll pick "not work". There are many rewelded M1 Garands around. Some have worked well and some not.

 

[nicholst55]

Buy a Mosin with a better barrel; you'll be time and money ahead. You can still find decent Mosins for right around $100. A gunsmith would charge you probably $50 at the absolute minimum to swap your barrel and you'd still have a $100 rifle when you finished.

Even if you spend big bucks ($250-300 minimum) for a good quality aftermarket barrel and find a gunsmith that will install it on your Mosin ($150-300), you'll still have a $100 rifle. It's just not worth the time and money.

 

[Odnar]

May be tempted to try something like that on a .22 LR. Not a 7.62x54R though.

 

[Jim K]

I have fixed a .30-'06 rifle as Justashooter describes and never heard of any problem. Whether it is worth it with a M-N is another story.

Jim

 

[rcmodel]

It might make a nice floor lamp.

Already has the hole for the cord to come out!

rc

 

[4sooth]

Hole

The hole is intentional.It's purpose is to allow the threads on the barrel to be lubricated when it is screwed into the receiver. My Mosin has this hole but it is plugged with a screw.

 

[rcmodel]

No, it's not intentional.
Somebody drilled clear through the barrel shank into the chamber trying to mount a scope.
Any hole in the receiver is a mistake.

Any oiling the threads necessary would be done before the barrel was screwed in.

rc

 

[mgregg85]

Its a mosin nagant, you can get a new one for less than $100. Why spend more than that on just a new barrel?

If you really wanted to you could try to plug it with a screw as others have suggested but don't try to weld it unless you have the equipment to heat treat it again.

 

[Jim K]

OT, but the comment line in mgregg85's post brings up the interesting point that in that period in Germany the VW was not called that; it was called the KdF wagen and sold through the Kraft durch Freude (Strength through Joy) organization, the Nazi party's "R&R" group. Incidentally, it was "sold" by advance payments; when the war began, the government stopped production of the civilian version and the "volk" who had made their advance installment payments were S**eiss out of luck.

Which just goes to show that you can always trust your government - not.

Jim

 

[Sunray]

It's toast. What model Moisin-Nagant? Gunparts is listing M44 Carbine barrels at $52.10 plus a buck for shipping. Sold out of 91/30 barrels.
"...to allow the threads on the barrel to be lubricated..." Nonsense.

 

[Beelzy]

Supposed "Gunsmiths" have done this before, I've seen my share of plugged chambers
on the Used rifle rack. Some are done rather well and require a good eye to detect.

Obviously those guns didn't Kaboom.

 

[robmkivseries70]

Your "Dark Barrel" may not be all that bad. Clean and degrease it well, tighten the action screws and shoot it. If using surplus ammo, pour boiling water through the barrel, scrub the bore with dish soap, rinse with more hot water to get the soap and salts out. Rinse the bolt as well and let cool, clean with Hoppe's #9. After cleaning the bore with soap and water rinse and clean the cleaning rod and brush to get any salts off of it. Try different ammo bullet weights to see what shoots well. Chances are you bore will shine up and you will discover an ammo type that shoots well.
Best,
Rob

 

[Navy_Guns]

That, and good luck getting a barrel off a Mosin without doing a relief cut! I'm redoing an M44 into .454 Casull right now and I had to lathe cut the old barrel next to the receiver to take the stress off the threads. Without the cut, I couldn't clamp it tight enough in the receiver vise to back out the barrel.

 

[mooseracing]

"...to allow the threads on the barrel to be lubricated..." Nonsense.

Maybe not the OP hole, but there is a hole on the bottom side of Mosins for this (according to a few collector sites) where the barrel threads are.

 

[jcwit]

Oh great! Now we're fixing worthless guns.

 

[Beelzy]

The only "worthless" gun is the Un-Loaded gun.

 

[leftym4]

thanks for all the replies my intention of asking this was more out of curiosity that it was to see if it was salvageable which i figured it was not as there is a lot of stress when the round goes boom and odds are if there is any weekness in filling that hole its likely to blow something out of it .

i just pick it up and it was free and as i have figured and what others have said the barrel is junk however the receiver is seen salvageable since the barrel take the blunt of the expansion so should i come across a good barrel may be worth putting together for just tinker with

it is sad to see that hole in such a nice shinny barrel i don't know what bubba was thinking when he drilled it, good thing he did not shoot it that way the lease he would have lost would have been his scope.

 

[jcwit]

The only "worthless" gun is the Un-Loaded gun.

Oh ya! Try posting that when someone starts a thread on Ravens, Lorcens, or other inexpensive pistols of their ilk.

 

[claphoto]

Shame Shame. Nagant's are not worthless! Mine shoots very well for a 1943 rifle with just iron sights, and a big bunch of us like having a $100 rifle that shoots as well as some $700 new guns. It really upsets them at the range when they walk down-range and compare my group size to their target even when they are using a scope.