is an SKS really just an SKS?

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Remember, used to be dime stores with barrels of K-98ks...

I just wish people could at least tell a Norinco from a Tula.
 
Man the guy with the highest bid when the auction ended must REALLY be pissed off. Really. Seller seems to be playing loose with the rules, oh well it's the internet.
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what do you mean? the rifle was listed as just any old SKS. with no reserve. it started out at like 200$ according to the poster of this topic on gun boards. it was pointed out to the seller that it was a very rare model.

its possible that the seller decided to have some one place a fake bid on it. but when still there has to have been some kind of competion to get the bid that high
 
I was just reading where he 'extended' the auction. Maybe it was because of that 15minute rule. But if you'd won an auction and it was then extended, damn!
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The 15min rule is what makes it a TRUE auction unlike those fake not quite e-bay auctions. Name where in real life (not on a computer) that an auction ends when there are still bids being placed.
 
Man, I recently sold one just like that, except it had a blade bayo and was a 1950. It's amazing how much difference the little details make.

I sold it for a LOT close to the starting bid than the ending bid. :p
 
Hmm..., the same guy listed another Russian SKS the next day with the following note:


[Information added 04/16/2007 8:27:30 PM]
If anyone know the sks collector "bravo73" please have him/her email me asap.

bravo73 was the second highest bidder for the one that closed at $7375. Sounds kinda like maybe the $7K SKS didn't really happen
 
What makes that rifle so special?? I mean 8 grand special?

Just because its so rare?
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'the 59 year and the spike bayonet make it sepecial. nothing more than that. it doesnt shoot rainbows or lay golden eggs functionaly its the same as any other SKS ( spring return firing pin aside)

but it stresses the idea that "that old commie rifle" isnt always a 75$ POS
 
I don't care if Joseph Stalin himself owned that thing, NO SKS is worth THAT kind of money :eek:
 
staw man

I believe the term is "straw man." The seller gets a buddy to collaborate with him to drive up the price of the item to his ideal price. The straw man also helps the seller avoid selling the item for less than he intends, by putting in a winning bid if the auction price levels out too low (thus it is unethical).

* I had a co-worker who was hired to be a straw man at an agriculture auction once. He said if the farmers had discovered the ploy he could have been beaten or shot in the parking lot.

It sounds like the SKS wasn't selling for the price he wanted, so he had his buddy put in a high bid to end the auction. However, when you do this, you normally put in a reasonable final bid- not $7 k. :rolleyes:
 
is gun broker liek Ebay where you enter a max bid and it will continue to bid for you till that max bid?

if thats the case and it wasnt like a real auction then theres definatly some one out there that wants it enough to push the straw man to 7k
 
Actually I think the term is shill bidding, not straw man. But I could be wrong.
 
Even if there is a strawman/shellbidder working with the seller, there still has to be a legitimate bidder that he's bidding against, baited into a bidding war.

I dont understand why anybody would be crazy enough to bid up that high. I'm no expert, but it looks like any other SKS, and isnt described as anything too far out of the ordinary.

That thing should sell for a couple hundred bucks, max.
 
The sad thing is, someone will likely pay thousands of dollars for a $250 SKS. There's a sucker born every minute. But, hey, maybe I could sell my old Yugo for $7000 and buy that M1 I've been dying to have!
 
The term is indeed "shill bidding".

Unknown if that's really the case with this particular SKS auction, but it does happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill

I'd have a hard time spending that much for an SKS myself, although I'd love to have one of Saddam's gold-plated Kalashnikovs. ;)
 
I'm curious about the cruciform (spike) bayonet. In all my readings I have never heard of a Russian SKS with that bayonet. All have been blade-type. Chinese Type-56 carbines used the cruciform.
Why is the year so special? Many Russian SKS's were around for several years prior to that year and many, many after that. The official parade rifle was the SKS in Russia.
If it's original for that year why does it have the inertia-type firing pin?? (especially after being arsenal reworked??) My impression was that type was discontinued soon after the carbines adoption.
In any event whomever pays that kind of money for that rifle has a few screws loose!!!!! IMO
 
I'm curious about the cruciform (spike) bayonet. In all my readings I have never heard of a Russian SKS with that bayonet. All have been blade-type. Chinese Type-56 carbines used the cruciform.
Why is the year so special? Many Russian SKS's were around for several years prior to that year and many, many after that. The official parade rifle was the SKS in Russia....
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\for what ever reason in 49, Tula pumped out a handfull of these. i honestly dont know why they did it. but these rifles are rare.
 
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