Is any paper work needed for selling ftf?
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larry starling
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In NC if I were to sell FTF I would get a Permit from them as it would be proof that they could purchase in my state.
In most states the only requirement is to verify that the buyer is a resident of the state and that there's nothing prohibiting them buying it.
In some states there are other requirements.
What state are you in?
In some states there are other requirements.
What state are you in?
in alabama, as far as I know.. and individual can sell to another individual with nothing proving anything... you can walk into a gun show with your rifle and a sign asking whatever you want for it and sell it to whoever wants it simply by them giving you the money.
is this a good thing? open to discussion.
is this a good thing? open to discussion.
Call your local LEO and or ATF for clarity. I would write up a cheezy disclaimer like I Joe sell this marlin sn12345 to John who states he can legally purchase this firearm. Not really your place to play detective, if a buyer states they are legal and signs as much, not your place to do more. But again, consult your local laws. In my area, simply sell the long arm, no questions asked.
Six
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This may do it, while not required (here), it's nice to CYA if someone came around asking questions. There are others out there to:
http://rasj.org/FBOS/firearm-bill-of-sale.pdf
http://rasj.org/FBOS/firearm-bill-of-sale.pdf
Art Eatman
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The OP needs to tell us what state he's in, for us to be able to help. It would also help to know whether it is or is not an "Evil" rifle.
In NC a permit-to-purchase from the local sheriff is required for Handguns only.
For CYA, I have a statement I ask an unknown buyer to read and sign and I ask for proof of ID. Same stuff as on the 4473. I don't copy any info off their ID other than their name. I give a receipt.
For CYA, I have a statement I ask an unknown buyer to read and sign and I ask for proof of ID. Same stuff as on the 4473. I don't copy any info off their ID other than their name. I give a receipt.
HOME DEPOT GEORGE
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Whenever I sell face to face here in Florida I make a form with a copy of both of our drivers license,the serial#,make and caliber and date then we each keep a copy.
Rmac58
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No, a private sale has no requirements.
NavyLCDR
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Depending upon state law. Some states require it, some don't. OP never came back and told us what state he was from, so your answer may be incorrect for his state.
martinc64 is in Fayetteville, NC.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=437949
So, as stated above, a pistol purchase permit is required for the private sale of handguns in NC. Nothing is required for the sale of rifles.
Kind of Blued
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Many states require nothing more than knowing that you are selling to a resident of the state in which you also hold residency, as well as not knowingly selling a gun to a felon.
i.e. I could legally sell a gun to a felon, so long as I didn't KNOW that he/she was a felon during the sale.
Your situation is likely different. It depends on where you live...
i.e. I could legally sell a gun to a felon, so long as I didn't KNOW that he/she was a felon during the sale.
Your situation is likely different. It depends on where you live...
woof
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I think it is a rare state where there is any requirement at all if the gun is legal to begin with. The notion that you have to verify the residence of the buyer is false. There is no duty anywhere for the seller to verify anything about the buyer. Now if it can be proven you knew in advance he was a non-resident that might be different, otherwise it's don't ask don't tell.
question, since I don't see the need to start a new thread.
I'm in Virginia. I want to sell an AR-15 that I no longer have much use for other than gouging for extra money. I would imagine that checking for a VA-issued ID would be a good way to cover my butt. However, is there anything else I can/should do just in case?
And, as for taking a gun to a gun show slung over your back with a sign: how prudent is walking down a sidewalk to the venue of a gun show with an AR-15? Has anyone done this? How'd that work out? I can just imagine the looks I'd get during tourist/beach season.
I'm in Virginia. I want to sell an AR-15 that I no longer have much use for other than gouging for extra money. I would imagine that checking for a VA-issued ID would be a good way to cover my butt. However, is there anything else I can/should do just in case?
And, as for taking a gun to a gun show slung over your back with a sign: how prudent is walking down a sidewalk to the venue of a gun show with an AR-15? Has anyone done this? How'd that work out? I can just imagine the looks I'd get during tourist/beach season.
AirForceShooter
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In Florida one person brings money, the other brings a gun. They swap.
Go for a beer.
Done deal and no law broken
AFS
Go for a beer.
Done deal and no law broken
AFS
Rmac58
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No felonies here. You can sell at a gun show without a background check, just a private sale. It happens.
It's a good idea to have a bill of sale, if the buyer has a drivers license, good, but are they "allowed" to own a weapon? Up to you to decide, but in Virginia, no requirements.
It's a good idea to have a bill of sale, if the buyer has a drivers license, good, but are they "allowed" to own a weapon? Up to you to decide, but in Virginia, no requirements.
gc70
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Depending on the law in a particular state, what is legally required may be different from what is prudent.
At first, I was annoyed that the OP didn't come back to tell us where he lived....but seeing some of the reckless advice posted here, I'm glad for him that he stayed away.
Now, that said, I didn't exactly need to be Sherlock Holmes to find that he is in North Carolina or was 2 weeks ago anyhow. But even though that was pointed out way up above by someone else, most ignored it. The strange part though...is we haven't had at least 5 posts about what Texas law is....we get those even in threads where the OP says he's from North Dakota.
Now, that said, I didn't exactly need to be Sherlock Holmes to find that he is in North Carolina or was 2 weeks ago anyhow. But even though that was pointed out way up above by someone else, most ignored it. The strange part though...is we haven't had at least 5 posts about what Texas law is....we get those even in threads where the OP says he's from North Dakota.
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woof
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Legally required vs prudent - I'll do what's legally required and that is refuse to sell a gun to anyone I know to be, or have reason to suspect is, ineligible to receive it. Nothing further. Sorry, I am not going to volunteer to help them police their gun laws. If they want to make an LEO available at every FTF transaction to ask the buyer those questions, go ahead, not my job, not my duty.
gc70
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I prefer to be careful regarding my own interests.
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