Is anyone coming out with an AK-47 in 300 Blackout

[87Theworld]

I know AR are being produced in 300 blackout, but I saw AAC with an custom AK-47 they made to take the 300 round. Im going to get the AR but would also like an AK and common ammo is a plus since I currently own neither. Has anyone heard anything about these aks being produced in the future?

 

[Buck Kramer]

Haven't heard of one being built. It would be a lot harder to re-barrel an AK than it would an AR. It's not that it cannot be done, you just don't see too many people interested in it.

 

[TurtlePhish]

Yeah, lotta work and limited market... If it became worth it, then I'm sure it would get done. But aside from custom work, probably not.

 

[animator]

Haven't heard of one being built. It would be a lot harder to re-barrel an AK than it would an AR. It's not that it cannot be done, you just don't see too many people interested in it.

Maybe... I agree that changing out an AR barrel only requires a wrench and a vise, but changing out an AK barrel isn't too complicated of a process either for someone that's done it a time or two.


If I had a .223 AK, I'd consider pulling the barrel and swapping in a 300 just to see what happens. Might make for a cool project.

 

[weeniewawa]

why?

it is basically a copy of the 7.62 x 39 round anyway

 

[armarsh]

^^ This. And I'm a fan of the 300 BLK.

 

[TurtlePhish]

it is basically a copy of the 7.62 x 39 round anyway

Totally forgot to mention that. Yeah, .300BLK in an AK wouldn't drastically change anything. It'd make it a lot more expensive to shoot.

 

[Telekinesis]

I don't think there's much of a market for an AK in 300 Blackout. The whole point of 300 Blk was to make a subsonic round that would essentially mirror the ballistics of a subsonic 7.62x39, but still work well out of an AR platform. Honestly I see no reason to make an AK in 300 Blk when you already have a well tested and reliable gun which is a near copy ballistically to the 7.62x39, but with cheaper mags and ammo.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

why?

it is basically a copy of the 7.62 x 39 round anyway

That's what I was wondering as well. Not to mention the mags would be harder to find and ammo would be even harder to find and much more expensive then if it was just 7.62 x 39.

 

[Z-Michigan]

The whole point of 300 Blk was to make a subsonic round that would essentially mirror the ballistics of a subsonic 7.62x39, but still work well out of an AR platform. Honestly I see no reason to make an AK in 300 Blk when you already have a well tested and reliable gun which is a near copy ballistically to the 7.62x39, but with cheaper mags and ammo.

+1000

And I too am a fan of 300BLK.

 

[Buck Kramer]

but changing out an AK barrel isn't too complicated of a process either for someone that's done it a time or two.

I know, I've built 3 of them. What I'm saying is that using a 20 ton press and a bottle jack, headspacing, and then re-drilling in the new pin is a little more complicated than buying a $20 barrel nut wrench.

 

[Jason_G]

Add to what's been said the fact that AKs, AFAIK, are not usually suppressed very effectively, and the whole thing starts to lose its allure very quickly.

Jason

 

[87Theworld]

I just wanted a common round of 300 blackout between the AK and AR instead of 7.62x39. Seeing as reloading a subsonic 7.62x39 is useless for an semi ak. The reason for the 300blk in the first place. I reload so ammo price isn't to much of an issue. It would also be nice to also be able to use the same suppressor.

 

[Owen Sparks]

I hope not.

 

[Hizzie]

John Hollister had an Arsenal SLR-106UR converted to 300 Blackout, SBR'd and runs it suppressed. Work was completed by Troy of In Range.

 

[Girodin]

I am with those that simply do not understand the appeal of the 300 blk out in an AK. As stated by ACC at http://300aacblackout.com/ :

Introducing the Advanced Armament Corp. 300 AAC Blackout (300BLK). This system was developed to launch 30 caliber projectiles from the AR platform without a reduction in magazine capacity and compatible with the standard bolt.

Full power 115-125 grain ammunition matches the ballistics of the 7.62x39mm AK, a

Basically the whole point of the caliber is to get x39 ballistics out of an AR

Again according to ACC:

DESIGN OBJECTIVES
• Create a reliable compact 30-cal solution for the AR platform
• Utilize existing inventory magazines while retaining their full capacity
• Create the optimal platform for sound and flash suppressed fire
• Create compatible supersonic ammo that matches 7.62x39 ballistics
• Provide the ability to penetrate barriers with high-mass projectiles
• Provide all capabilities in a lightweight, durable, low recoiling package

The blackout is a 7.62x39 that actually works in the AR platform. There is not need for that in the AK as the x39 works.

As to prefering the blackout for sub sonic shooting. There is more of a case for it. However, I still would not be getting an AK for it.

Seeing as reloading a subsonic 7.62x39 is useless for an semi ak.

One can load sub sonics that will cycle the action.

The real issue is that the AK just isn't that great of a suppressor host if you are interested in something really quite. This will be true no matter what round its shooting.

All in all I just see an AK in 300 BLK as something that makes much sense at all. Now the 6.5 grendel rumors that were swirling a few months back. . .

 

[R.W.Dale]

300 blk for an AK only has downsides.

Appx 150 to 200 fps slower with any given bullet weight.

No $4.99 a box ammo

No $10 magazines

What were the benifets again.

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[Flashcube]

Not that I have any interest, but it would be a .30 caliber AK I could actually own as 7.62x39 AKs are banned here in CT. The mag/ammo availability issues would kind of ruin it in the long run though.

 

[Collector0311]

I'd be interested to know where you all think the .300blk will go from here. I've been out of country for a while and when I'm home I'm out on a base in the communist state of California. Any opinions on whether it will take off and drop ammo prices with an increase in manufacturers, or will it wither and die like so many other "new" calibers of late?

 

[Kachok]

The 300 has no real world advantage over the 7.62x39 so I highly doubt there will be one marketed to the genral public. 7.62x39 ammo is cheap and everywhere, 300 Blackout is expensive and rare, seems to be a no brainer to me with an AK platform.

 

[henschman]

The only advantage, if you want to call it that, that the .300 blackout has over 7.62x39 is that it has a straight walled case. This is usually a disadvantage in a rifle cartridge, but in this case it allows it to use straighter mags than the 7.62x39, so it will actually feed reliably into the non-optimal straight mag well of the AR-15. If you want the same performance out of an AK, just hand load 7.62x39.

 

[mberoose]

Everyone keeps saying "...and I'm a fan of 300 blackout."

Well, I don't give half a hootenanny about 300 blackout, but here in CT where 7.62 AKs are a no-no, I suppose it would be a clever workaround if you absolutely refused to just buy a VZ58.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

Can't you guys from CT get a Saiga and convert it? How do they define an AK in the law books?

 

[mberoose]

Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure the CT ban list just specifies "Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type"...and from my understanding from talking to multiple long-time gunnies and gun store owners locally in person and on CT gun forums, it's pretty much a blanket statement covering any and all variants of 7.62x39 AKs, even if its a Saiga. VZ58s, however, are fine seeing as though they're only similar to AK47s in appearance, and AK74s are allowed, since they're obviously in a different caliber.

 

[courtgreene]

that just seems silly to me.