I was informed today by several LEO's that a non-LEO can own a LEO only hi-cap Magazine if it was sold to them by a LEO. An example would be a LEO retires, purchases his gun from the department and then decides to sell the gun and mags to a private party. Not wanting to break any laws my question is this legal? And if so is there anything that I should do to cover my rear in this matter( letter from officer selling gun/mags? Thanks
Is it legal to own LEO Hi-Cap mags being non-leo?
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Powderman
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It is illegal for a "private citizen" to own one of those filthy, politically incorrect, LEO stamped high-cap magazines. It does not matter WHO you buy them from.
If the person who has the magazines is a cop, they can only legally dispose of them to another police officer.
A non-LEO type commits a Federal offense by having those LEO marked magazines in their possession.
Sad, but true. Apparently, the mere possession of those magazines turns your mild-mannered handgun or rifle into an immediate death machine, able to seek out and destroy people simply by being in close proximity to them.
If the person who has the magazines is a cop, they can only legally dispose of them to another police officer.
A non-LEO type commits a Federal offense by having those LEO marked magazines in their possession.
Sad, but true. Apparently, the mere possession of those magazines turns your mild-mannered handgun or rifle into an immediate death machine, able to seek out and destroy people simply by being in close proximity to them.
Greg L
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No, not legal. The mags are supposed to go back to the department who's letterhead they were purchased under (even if bought with the officer's own money) when the officer no longer needs them (for one reason or another).
Isn't it nice being a serf?
Greg
Isn't it nice being a serf?
Greg
Lone_Gunman
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They sound like either :
1. they are trying to sting you
or
2. They are complete idiots and don't know the laws they are supposed to be trying to uphold.
or
3. They just dont care about the law, have stolen some hi priced magazines, and are trying to sell department equipment for the own gain.
1. they are trying to sting you
or
2. They are complete idiots and don't know the laws they are supposed to be trying to uphold.
or
3. They just dont care about the law, have stolen some hi priced magazines, and are trying to sell department equipment for the own gain.
publius
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Wow. I had no idea I was so naughty. Hey, I only shot with it! Wasn't mine! Honest!
Powderman
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You bad, bad person. How DARE you load more than ten rounds in your magazine?
Seriously, though, I don't know of any cop (myself included) that gives a rip if a private citizen has a high cap or not. I have seen LEO marked hi-caps on the range in the hands of private citizens. I didn't give a durn, didn't even address the issue, did'nt even identify myself as a cop. It's a non-issue to me.
Still, there are some folks out to make a name for themselves. And, you don't know who is on the range with you. One time I found myself holding an in depth conversation with a guy on the range. I showed him my Glock. I cleared the weapon, and he saw the LEO-marked hi-cap. He started acting a bit standoffish, then asked me if I was a cop.
I said yes, and he asked to see my badge and commission card. I said, "I have no problem with that--but why?"
He then pulled a chain from under his shirt, showing the badge of a Deputy US Marshal.
I was GLAD to show him my credentials then!!
So, be careful!! It's not worth going to jail over. Besides, you risk a healthy fine, and the permanent loss of your right to own firearms. All for a stupid piece of metal and plastic.
Which reminds me...........elections will be coming up shortly........
Seriously, though, I don't know of any cop (myself included) that gives a rip if a private citizen has a high cap or not. I have seen LEO marked hi-caps on the range in the hands of private citizens. I didn't give a durn, didn't even address the issue, did'nt even identify myself as a cop. It's a non-issue to me.
Still, there are some folks out to make a name for themselves. And, you don't know who is on the range with you. One time I found myself holding an in depth conversation with a guy on the range. I showed him my Glock. I cleared the weapon, and he saw the LEO-marked hi-cap. He started acting a bit standoffish, then asked me if I was a cop.
I said yes, and he asked to see my badge and commission card. I said, "I have no problem with that--but why?"
He then pulled a chain from under his shirt, showing the badge of a Deputy US Marshal.
I was GLAD to show him my credentials then!!
So, be careful!! It's not worth going to jail over. Besides, you risk a healthy fine, and the permanent loss of your right to own firearms. All for a stupid piece of metal and plastic.
Which reminds me...........elections will be coming up shortly........
Well, if they are state/local LEOs, they would not exactly be tasked with upholding a federal law, now would they? And on the plus side, it can't be a sting unless they are actually feds, or working with the feds, or there is an applicable state law in place.
This is a simple concept called 'federalism.' The feds don't prosecute state/local offenses, the state/locals don't prosecute federal ones. They often don't know what is a violation, except of the laws they enforce.
I, for instance, am stunningly ignorant of Bureau of Land Management's rules and regs regarding prairie habitat.
Mike
HABU
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Ok, so this begs the question: why are magazines marked LEO illegal to own but hi caps that are not marked LEO are legal? Lots of guys in IPSC have mags that hold more than 10 rounds.
trapshooter
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Well, because Congress passed a law that says so.
Was that a completely brainless thing to do?
Yep.
1. It doesn't make sense, don't even try to make it do so.
that said...
2. Magazines manufactured prior to the Ban are ok to own and use, and most of them are "high capacity" if they are, for instance, 9mm or .40S&W. Magazines manufactured after the ban are divided into 2 categories, LEO "high capacity" and non-LEO magazines, limited to 10 rounds. If you are an active duty LEO you can own and use the former. If you are not, you can only own the latter.
So in essence it is pretty simple...if the magazine is unmarked, you can own it. If it is marked LEO only, you can't.
No, I don't like this any more than you do.
Mike
that said...
2. Magazines manufactured prior to the Ban are ok to own and use, and most of them are "high capacity" if they are, for instance, 9mm or .40S&W. Magazines manufactured after the ban are divided into 2 categories, LEO "high capacity" and non-LEO magazines, limited to 10 rounds. If you are an active duty LEO you can own and use the former. If you are not, you can only own the latter.
So in essence it is pretty simple...if the magazine is unmarked, you can own it. If it is marked LEO only, you can't.
No, I don't like this any more than you do.
Mike
UnknownSailor
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This will just kill you guys, but I can get Beretta 92 15 round mags, for $8.05 a piece. All stamped LEO/Military use only, of course.....
I just ordered 50 of them for my base armorers to use for pistol qualifications.
Let me tell ya, the urge to "borrow" a few of them was strong....
I just ordered 50 of them for my base armorers to use for pistol qualifications.
Let me tell ya, the urge to "borrow" a few of them was strong....
Powderman
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Try Glock factory hi-caps, brand new, $16.00 each.
TheeBadOne
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"Opps"....I must have mixed up magazines at the range last weekend, this LEO Hi-Cap mag isn't mine
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