BigRedBowtie
Member
I'll start with a story, then ask my question...
Tonight, as my wife was driving a loaner car, (BOTH trucks in the shop) the brakes began to grind. It didn't happen gradually, but suddenly, causing the pedal to require more pressure to stop. Coming upon the intersection without the stopping power that she had planned on, my wife decided that her safest option was to roll through in a right-hand turn. (Kudos, dear!) Well, one of our cities' finest didn't agree. She got pulled over.
(Here comes the gun part)
My wife is VERY good about carrying every day, every time she leaves the house. Legal, permitted, trained and holstered- everything done right. MN law does NOT require that a permit-holder inform a LEO that they are carrying. Through conversation with instructors and other permit-holders, I have given my wife the standing advice that if she were ever pulled over, to offer her permit to carry as a polite way to inform the officer that she was carrying- not to mention the "I'm one of the good guys" factor.
Ms. Badge #3619(yes MS): "DL and Reg, please"
(wife hands requested docs along with permit to carry)
LEO: "this (permit) isn't it"
Mrs Z:"I just wanted to let you know that I am carrying"
LEO:"well, who do you work for"
Mrs Z: "uh"
LEO:"Who do you work for"
Mrs. Z:"Well-"
LEO:"Why are you carrying"
Mrs Z:"For Personal Protection"
LEO:"Oh" (hands permit back)
LEO proceded to berate my wife about not stopping, My lil Mrs explained brakes failed, "why are you driving the car" etc, etc, etc...
At any rate, the brakes and ticket are NOT the purpose of this post. How do those of you in "not required to inform" states handle this situation? I have considered it a common courtesy to this point. From a law enforcement perpective, is informing an officer courteous, or arrogant? If the situation arises where I'm requested out of my car, I'm not interested in getting tackled/ cuffed/ covered by an itchy glock, and everything that may go with "surprising" an LEO.
What should be done in this situation?
Tonight, as my wife was driving a loaner car, (BOTH trucks in the shop) the brakes began to grind. It didn't happen gradually, but suddenly, causing the pedal to require more pressure to stop. Coming upon the intersection without the stopping power that she had planned on, my wife decided that her safest option was to roll through in a right-hand turn. (Kudos, dear!) Well, one of our cities' finest didn't agree. She got pulled over.
(Here comes the gun part)
My wife is VERY good about carrying every day, every time she leaves the house. Legal, permitted, trained and holstered- everything done right. MN law does NOT require that a permit-holder inform a LEO that they are carrying. Through conversation with instructors and other permit-holders, I have given my wife the standing advice that if she were ever pulled over, to offer her permit to carry as a polite way to inform the officer that she was carrying- not to mention the "I'm one of the good guys" factor.
Ms. Badge #3619(yes MS): "DL and Reg, please"
(wife hands requested docs along with permit to carry)
LEO: "this (permit) isn't it"
Mrs Z:"I just wanted to let you know that I am carrying"
LEO:"well, who do you work for"
Mrs Z: "uh"
LEO:"Who do you work for"
Mrs. Z:"Well-"
LEO:"Why are you carrying"
Mrs Z:"For Personal Protection"
LEO:"Oh" (hands permit back)
LEO proceded to berate my wife about not stopping, My lil Mrs explained brakes failed, "why are you driving the car" etc, etc, etc...
At any rate, the brakes and ticket are NOT the purpose of this post. How do those of you in "not required to inform" states handle this situation? I have considered it a common courtesy to this point. From a law enforcement perpective, is informing an officer courteous, or arrogant? If the situation arises where I'm requested out of my car, I'm not interested in getting tackled/ cuffed/ covered by an itchy glock, and everything that may go with "surprising" an LEO.
What should be done in this situation?