Is "ladies day" at the shooting range sexist?

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What’s a "special police officer"?

Also, isn't flipping over tables in a private establishment in an inappropriate display of anger legally frowned upon?

Personally, I"m all for ladies nights. I didn't go to clubs because I liked loud music, dancing and overpriced drinks and I think for a shooting range it's a great way to encourage new shooters.

It all cosmically balances out in the end. My wife pays 3X what I do for a haircut.
 
It is absurd to consider a once a week promotional deal to increase business in an underrepresented group that is also the fastest growing group of shooters to be sexist.

It is also pathetic for any shooter to complain about a program trying to increase the number of people in the shooting sports that can support the 2A.

What next, whining about agism because there are youth shooting programs.:banghead:

Disgusting. :cuss:
 
Also, isn’t flipping over tables in a private establishment in an inappropriate display of anger legally frowned upon?
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Based on what I read on the article, I think this was just a poor choice of wording by the topic originator. I think he was metaphorically "flipping the table" (you know the old saying "the tables have turned") on the establishment by suing. I don't think he literally was in there flipping over furniture :).
 
Having more lawyers than doctors and teachers is America's biggest problem.

I don't like the thought of someone like that owning guns.
 
Yup, this just made CNN headline news today.

Way to make (male) gun owners seem like a bunch of chauvinistic animals.
 
What next, whining about agism because there are youth shooting programs.
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I totally didn't think of that. We have a couple of weekends here in Arkansas where it's a youth only hunt. Maybe I should call my attorney and see if I can get a couple hundred k out of it since I can't hunt those weekends. Thanks for the heads up. :)
 
Based on what I read on the article, I think this was just a poor choice of wording by the topic originator. I think he was metaphorically "flipping the table" (you know the old saying "the tables have turned") on the establishment by suing. I don't think he literally was in there flipping over furniture .
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It is an expression common on meme sites like Failblog and the like. When someone is angry, they post an emoticon of someone flipping over a table.
 
TOO RIGHT IT'S SEXY!

Oh.......you said 'sexist'.
As many have pointed out, it is no more sexist at a gun range than it is anywhere else.
Does this clown rant at local bars when they won't give him a fu-fu drink with a little umbrella for half-price on ladies night?
If it upsets him that much, he could simply 'dress' for the occasion.
Oh my, now I have Lou Reed stuck in my head; "do do do - do do - do do do ..... do do do - do do - do do do .... dooooooooo"
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Trent said:
Way to make (male) gun owners seem like a bunch of chauvinistic animals.
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I think this is an interesting point of view, that demanding equal treatment is a form of chauvinism. :scrutiny: Did the man in question say or imply that he deserves equal treatment because men are superior to women? I don't see it in this case, so where is the chauvinism?

On the other hand, ironically I've seen a lot of chauvinism (or perhaps more appropriately reverse-chauvinism in many cases) on this supposedly "high road" message board, from claiming outright without proof that women are inherently superior shooters, to more subtle forms such as chivalry (i.e. the supposedly superior man helping women with trivial tasks that in reality women could just as easily do for themselves).

It is also fascinating how male chauvinism insidiously self-propagates through the castigation of men who dare to question the status quo. Why is it that women are allowed to demand equal treatment, but men are not? Based on some of the comments in this thread, at least, I guess some don't consider it macho enough--beneath a man's place, but not beneath a woman's place. Doesn't this seem like a form of male chauvinism in itself?

Now, don't get me wrong--in my personal view in the overall picture, this incident is much ado about nothing (just a business promotion to help encourage an underrepresented group to join in, excluding nobody). But many of the passionate comments being made in this thread raise some intriguing and even disturbing questions about our views.
 
Again, there is a difference between the public and private sectors... people may feel free to regard 'ism' of any flavor as 'wrong', but it's generally only ILLEGAL and wrong when it discriminates a) in a protected catagory AND b) in regard to something to which the individual has a RIGHT.
YES this range is treating its clients/ member differentially on the basis of sex, *BUT* it would be difficult to say that this man has a protected-status RIGHT to demand service at a private range.
Again, look at men-only clubs like the Augusta National (until very recently)... or for that matter, Curves (the women-only fitness centers that won't let me in). They have a legal right to choose whom they let in and on what terms.
 
I just heard on the radio about the gunshow at the expo center here this weekend.. ladies get in free. I think that's great.
 
I don't think he really thought this through, just a guy trying to save a buck. Certainly promotions like this are a great way to increase the number of people shooting.
 
This whole argument is BS, it is a marketing promotion, not a daily event, the dude in question needs to grow a pair and grow up. As mentioned, it is no different than a kids promo night, new shooter promo night, vet promo and on and on

let it goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
 
I have nothing against Ladies Night at shooting ranges, bars, bowling alleys.etc. These are once a week promotional events. What really irks me is police officers getting discounts and preferential treatment every day just because of their job. That's why I don't shoot at my local indoor range. Nothing against the cops but they are no better than me. I already pay for their toys and salaries. Don't expect me to subsidise their recreation time too.


Flame suit on. Tell us how hard your life is and why you're special.
 
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Reminds me of a time I opened a door for a lady. She curled her lip at me and said, "You don't have to open the door for me because I'm a lady."
To which I replied, "I didn't open the door because you were a lady. I opened it because I'm a gentleman."
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Many years back, I had a similar response. I was about nineteen years old, and she was around forty. She phrased it slightly differently, though, saying I didn't "have to hold the door for me because of my sex." I responded: "Ma'am, I wasn't holding it because of your sex. I was holding it because of your age."
Probably not as gentlemanly as your response was. She was certainly miffed.
 
I don't think it's sexist, it's simply a marketing strategy designed to reach out to a specifically underrepresented group. I have a close friend who lives in Kansas City, and the range she goes to has "ladies night" every Wednesday, where women can shoot at a reduced price. I think it's great, and so does she. She's there pretty much every Wednesday!

If any women get to the range and are offended, they can certainly ease their consciences by insisting on paying the full price! :neener:

As for the guy who sued.... male chauvenist pig needs to get a life. Suing and making 15 bucks 200,000 is unbelievable. :barf:
 
I plan on suing the NFL because of their policy that you have to be in shape to be employed by them. Clearly a violation of my rights as a fat man.

I will also sue every college in the country because my child is not getting a free ride to college. The poor and/or smart people clearly have an unfair advantage. Being an average middle class kid is no reason to treat my son any different than any other peorson.
 
In my opinion, this dude is a whiner! The number one thing that needs to be done to keep shooting sports alive and well is to bring new people into shooting. And any effort to achieve that goal makes sense.

Does this guy get his panties in a wad over bars having Ladies Night? I doubt it!

My range does the "First Shot" program a few times each year. I'm sure if it were suggested, we'd also have Ladies Days. And special days for most any segment of society that we could recruit into shooting. It only makes sense to introduce non-shooters into the sport.
 
My opinion? The guy is a jerk, end of story.
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DING DING DING!

I really wish judges were allowed to slap aspiring litigants once in a while...

Reminds me of a time I opened a door for a lady. She curled her lip at me and said, "You don't have to open the door for me because I'm a lady."
To which I replied, "I didn't open the door because you were a lady. I opened it because I'm a gentleman."
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I'll do you one better; back in college some gal snarls "I'm not so pathetic you have to hold the door for me:fire:". Whoa! where'd that come from? She continues to stomp though the (still) open door, though :rolleyes:. So many jerks around (like Mr. Lawsuit) people can't even trust a simple gesture of goodwill or manners...

TCB
 
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