Is the .45 GAP (.45 Glock Automatic Pistol) a dieing or NEAR DEATH caliber?
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Another thing about the .45GAP...
It may sell better overseas than it does here, due to laws in some nations banning weapons chambered in a military caliber. It is a way to get .45 ACP performance from something that is not banned.
I have no idea if this the case or not, but it follows logically.
Mike
It may sell better overseas than it does here, due to laws in some nations banning weapons chambered in a military caliber. It is a way to get .45 ACP performance from something that is not banned.
I have no idea if this the case or not, but it follows logically.
Mike
notorious
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The SF G21 did not help GAP sales, I am sure.
burningsquirrels
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it was a good idea, but not worth the hassle for mainstream buyers.
i agree on the non-military calibers for other countries and the smaller grip, but here in the u.s. it just isn't really worth the hassle.
i agree on the non-military calibers for other countries and the smaller grip, but here in the u.s. it just isn't really worth the hassle.
notorious
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It had a peak?
Ironically GLOCK themselves hastened the demise of the .45 GAP with the advent of the 21SF. Why go after a oddball caliber when you can get a gun that shoots the real deal in a normal-sized-hand friendly package. The only reason that the GAP came into existence was because the 21 was only usable by NBA players and Orangutans (okay- a bit of hyperbole).
notorious
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Well heck... my partner and I must both be simian ballers then because we both use G21s.
helz_mcfugly
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it should read on the bottom of the case "45 CRAP"
Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow
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Does this:
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answer your question?
outerlimit
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I'm just glad there aren't many that show up at the range. .45acp brass used to be easy to spot.. now you never know, it may be GAP until you look at it closer.
HorseSoldier
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The 21SF seems to be only a modest improvement on the 21 in terms of ergonomics for smaller-handed shooters, and doesn't replicate the grip size of the 9mm and 40 cal Glocks.
Which doesn't make the 45 GAP any less of an orphan, in any case.
notorious
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The 21SF feels like a whole different gun in my hands and I have been carrying a G21 since 1999 so I am vaguely familiar with what the G21 feels like. The first time I grabbed a G21SF, it was just like night and day... okay, more like dusk and day but still, there's a noticeable difference.
RonE
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I can remember when the gun writers raved about it, it was wonderful because of less recoil, great power and fit perfectly into some nitch or another.....It seemed that the gun writers didn't have anything new so they invented the cartridge.....I also remember the Edsel, Two Stroke Harley Davidsons and the Aero Coupe....All great ideas in small minds. DeLoreans might still be around if they were built with more than 130 Horse Power and could get out of their own way. The .45 GAP had so much engineering money in the cartridge and the one or two platforms for it that it had to waste an equeal amount on advertising. One must ask a question about new products: What can it do better than what we already have at a lesser cost? The answer for the GAP is absolutly nothing.
notorious
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Oh, don't I wish... when the G30 came out, I ran to the store and was sorely disappointed to find that it was bigger than my G23 which made it pointless for me to give that up, much less my G26. No G36 for me either because a single column Glock is just blasphemous. I might as well have a 1911 in 9mm... oops, did I say that out loud?
45 Gap or 45ACP ?
As far as I can tell , 45 GAP is in for the cartridge graveyard . Now that handgun makers have figured out ways to make slimmer 45ACP gripframes on their guns this solves the problem. Also, just get stuck in podunk and see if you can find a selection of 45Gap in stock ! Before long it will be dead IMHO.
As far as I can tell , 45 GAP is in for the cartridge graveyard . Now that handgun makers have figured out ways to make slimmer 45ACP gripframes on their guns this solves the problem. Also, just get stuck in podunk and see if you can find a selection of 45Gap in stock ! Before long it will be dead IMHO.
notorious
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So sad...
45GAP
357Sig
10mm
475 Wiley
41AE
and a whole host of other well-meaning calibers that never caught on the way it was intended to.
45GAP
357Sig
10mm
475 Wiley
41AE
and a whole host of other well-meaning calibers that never caught on the way it was intended to.
1911 guy
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Just my opinion, but...
Glock had a decent idea, put .45acp performance in a shorter package. Then they shot themselves in the foot because they're a one trick pony and that trick is double stack handguns. They defeated the only advantage their new chambering had.
Make a .45GAP in a slim single stack and you might have something.
Glock had a decent idea, put .45acp performance in a shorter package. Then they shot themselves in the foot because they're a one trick pony and that trick is double stack handguns. They defeated the only advantage their new chambering had.
Make a .45GAP in a slim single stack and you might have something.
Runningman
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The 357 Sig is being used by the US Secret Service, US Air Marshals, VA State Police, NC Highway Patrol, Texas DPS, OK Highway Patrol, NM State Police, and Chicago transit authority just to name a few off the top of my head. I don't think it is in danger of going obsolete anytime soon.
notorious
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I didn't say it was obsolete, but I did say it didn't catch on quite the way Sig thought it would on the order of the 40Smith&Wesson which actually established itself quite well immediately in the marketplace.
These manufacturers all want to carve out a caliber with their name on it, it seems but the good ideas are running out and Smith got the last good one.
Pulse
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well, the 357sig has a strong following all around the world.
hunters in europe love it and a buddy of mine that immigrated to Brazil uses it as caliber for the farmprotection group he established, it is also rapidly catching on with other farmers around him.
1k rounds of .357sig also cost 'only' 550 swiss francs here, wich is actualy less then the 560 for 1k rounds of quality .40S&W or 600 for 1k rounds of .45ACP.
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