joeyabc123
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I understand that they may have a high capacity and combat rifle ban in the works and I understand having a shortage of 20+ round magazines but y the shortage in ammo they can't ban ammo right?
Is the price for 223/556 going to go down?
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They can ban, regulate, and ration ammunition as they see fit........
What is an AR without ammo....... Currently a $1500 paper weight.
Ammunition is the key and it has already been suggested to heavily tax, limit people "stocking up", and just plain make it so expensive it's hard to get.
What is an AR without ammo....... Currently a $1500 paper weight.
Ammunition is the key and it has already been suggested to heavily tax, limit people "stocking up", and just plain make it so expensive it's hard to get.
mljdeckard
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*chortles*
joeyabc123
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I was able to order 7.62x39 I got 1,000 round but been unable to get at least 500 223/556 and I am not paying $1 a round for it
stubbicatt
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Eventually prices and stock will return to normal.
beatledog7
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Yes, ammo prices will fall, then rise, then fall again, ad infinitum, right up until ammo is banned. Then only the bad guys will have ammo.
Gold will reach $2400/oz by mid summer. Buy Now!
The Cowboys will be Superbowl champions in 2014.
Miss Arizona will be crowned Miss USA and will go on to be Miss Universe in 2016.
A colt named "Hi-Cap Ban" will win the Triple Crown in 2017. No, he's not been born yet, but if I could tell you how ammo pricing will go, I might just as well make these other predictions while I'm at it.
Gold will reach $2400/oz by mid summer. Buy Now!
The Cowboys will be Superbowl champions in 2014.
Miss Arizona will be crowned Miss USA and will go on to be Miss Universe in 2016.
A colt named "Hi-Cap Ban" will win the Triple Crown in 2017. No, he's not been born yet, but if I could tell you how ammo pricing will go, I might just as well make these other predictions while I'm at it.
UnderTheGun
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To say definitively yes is not possible but if history repeats itself my expectation is that it will return to the previous prices or at least close.
carbine85
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I have seen this panic buying before and I don't play in these markets. Things will return close to normal in a few months. The panic buyers will have an effect on the normal prices but most will have overpaid and loose their a$$.
Example- Wideners just emailed me with a fresh stock of 5.45x39, same price as before so I bought another 1200 rounds.
Example- Wideners just emailed me with a fresh stock of 5.45x39, same price as before so I bought another 1200 rounds.
cougar1717
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Absolutely. I looked at ammoseek today: 30-06 is cheaper than 223 Rem. Just think about that - the 30-06 has twice the amount of brass, twice the powder, three times the bullet weight - for about the same price. It's a false economy, a blip where increased demand has far outgrown supply. In a few short months, the price will drop when supply increases. People will fill their gullet full and without meaningful government regulation (to think our government will try to ban a caliber is silly) the price will return to reasonable levels.
They can do whatever we allow them to do
bdgackle
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I would think a hi-cap ban would result in falling prices for .223.
10 round mag dumps burn less ammo than 30 round dumps. On average, range use of ammo should drop slightly with smaller mags. Supply and demand, right?
10 round mag dumps burn less ammo than 30 round dumps. On average, range use of ammo should drop slightly with smaller mags. Supply and demand, right?
Sock Puppet
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Nice thought, but no. I believe folks have seen the "true colors" of our government representatives and will continue to stock up until they are comfortable. Many of us take for granted having a decent supply of ammo because we know how quickly one can go through it at an event or over a weekend. Many AR buyers are new shooters who are buying because they feel they need to buy now, and they are realizing they need the ammo to go with their new hobby. I don't forsee prices near where they were a few months ago for at least a year.
commygun
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The price? We can't even find it here, never mind pay for it.
Please, for the sake of all of us, refer to proposed legislation as a ban on standard-capacity magazines (i.e. 30 rounds). High-capacity magazines are 40-100. Low- or limited-capacity magazines are 10 rounds are so.
It's a lot tougher to make a case against the ban of high-capacity magazines than to prevent the ban of standard-capacity magazines.
Yes, it's just words, but this has all turned in to a war of words.
B
It's a lot tougher to make a case against the ban of high-capacity magazines than to prevent the ban of standard-capacity magazines.
Yes, it's just words, but this has all turned in to a war of words.
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When I got my drivers license gas was $.45 per gallon. Within a few months it went over $1.00/gal. People kept saying it would come back down as soon as the panic was over. It came down a little, but the trend over the last 40 years has been upwards dramatically. I predict the same with ammo.
Econ 101 and Free Market Enterprise
Everyone needs to think like a businessman in order to understand the way business works and ask themself, what would I do, would I eat those added costs and reduce my profit margin, or would I pass those increased production costs along to the customer.
I am producing all I can and still can't seem to keep up with demand so I must be selling the stuff too cheaply would be most every business owners answer. Now that the demand is slowing down, I can either cut my profit margin or I can cut back on the overtime, cut back from running 24 hours a day to just one shift if necessary and actually increase my profit margin by maintaining the same pricing I am currently using. Hey, I am in business to make money and as long as people will pay my asking price, I can't be over charging.
Welcome to ECON 101 and the way FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE works in the USA.
Al
Supply, demand, fear, rumors, and corporate greed. The fear buying, new gun ownership and hoarding has put a strain on the ammo supply thus causing increased pricing. The ammo manufacturers have taken their plants to "full utilization" in an attempt to keep up with the demand. When that demand finally subsides they will start cutting their manufacturing output to their normal utilization because overtime pay cuts into profits unless the companies raise prices to compensate for the increased production costs.
Everyone needs to think like a businessman in order to understand the way business works and ask themself, what would I do, would I eat those added costs and reduce my profit margin, or would I pass those increased production costs along to the customer.
I am producing all I can and still can't seem to keep up with demand so I must be selling the stuff too cheaply would be most every business owners answer. Now that the demand is slowing down, I can either cut my profit margin or I can cut back on the overtime, cut back from running 24 hours a day to just one shift if necessary and actually increase my profit margin by maintaining the same pricing I am currently using. Hey, I am in business to make money and as long as people will pay my asking price, I can't be over charging.
Welcome to ECON 101 and the way FREE MARKET ENTERPRISE works in the USA.
Al
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I have boxes of 223 ammo with $3 price tags on it. People are now paying $20 for the same box of ammo. Once the public is conditioned to paying those prices they will feel they are getting a bargain when it drops down to $15.
Ammo makers will not significantly lower their prices even after the craziness subsides. They have already established that people will pay the higher prices. They will just continue at prices close to this and make more profits.
Same is true with gas prices. There is no reason for gas to be selling for more than about $2.25/gal. But the oil companies have estabilished that people will still pay close to $4/gal and feel they are getting a bargain at $3/gal.
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Prices are coming down slightly on ammo, and significantly on AR-15 / M4 type builds.
You can currently get lake city M855 for 70 - 75 cents a round on gunbroker (buying in bulk / 500 rounds or more), and most AR-15 / M4 type builds for between 1200 - 1600 depending on what you are looking for.
There are still those who are seriously trying to gouge (over 1 dollar per round), but their auctions are getting ignored for the most part. The market is starting to stabilize again...but it's happening at a slow pace.
You can currently get lake city M855 for 70 - 75 cents a round on gunbroker (buying in bulk / 500 rounds or more), and most AR-15 / M4 type builds for between 1200 - 1600 depending on what you are looking for.
There are still those who are seriously trying to gouge (over 1 dollar per round), but their auctions are getting ignored for the most part. The market is starting to stabilize again...but it's happening at a slow pace.
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