Is there a >40x mil/mil scope with lines (not dots) on reticle?

[Shmackey]

I'm looking for a benchrest/F-Class scope to go on a new project I'm building. I finally got used to mils, and all my scopes are now mil/mil, so I don't really want to work in MOA just for this scope.

The only mil/mil (turrets/reticle) scope that seems to fit the bill is the Sightron 10-50x60, but the turret has fat black mil dots instead of open dots or--even better--mil lines.

I know it's already a tall order to get a mil/mil benchrest scope. The gold-standard Nightforces all seem to be in MOA. But is there even one out there that fits my description?

 

[Shmackey]

Well look at that.... Sightron just came out with a mil-hash model of their 10-50x scope. There's a bump in price because it has an illuminated reticle, but it might just be the one.

 

[taliv]

cool. i couldn't think of one off the top of my head. closest i know would be the 30x bushnell and maybe convincing someone to customize the NF benchrest or leupold custom shop.

 

[Shmackey]

Yeah--I'm surprised it's such a tall order. I guess I understand how the "shoot for groups" guys can use a plain crosshair reticle, but apparently a lot of the "shoot for score" guys also use a plain crosshair and figure out their holdovers by ... magic? The shooters who do use a measuring reticle lean strongly toward MOA.

 

[taliv]

well in f-class it's not that hard really. just use the target rings as reference points. i mean, you've got a 5" diameter x ring and a 10" diameter 10 ring. if you were aiming at the X and when the spotter came back up, it's at 9 oclock on the 9 ring, and the condition hasn't changed, well, you know you need to push the crosshair or target dot to the right side 9 ring.

to be perfectly honest, with such exact reference measure printed on the target, i wouldn't use the hashes.

1st round, before my string starts, i'm going to take the kestrel and shooter ballistics calculator on my phone and get a wind solution. I can get that or convert that to inches. and i know how many inches each scoring ring is. so that tells me where i'm going to hold. from there, i can do my measurements in rings and adjust accordingly.

of course that method is not practical at all for any non-NRA shooting.


edit: btw, the affinity for MOA is because so many f-class shooters are or were big into service rifle CMP/NRA competitions and match iron sights almost always come in MOA adjustments. so pretty much 99% of the sites on the line are going to have MOA adjustments. and there's no real reason to change from it because it is slightly finer (more precise) than MIL. e.g. 1/4 MOA is smaller than 1/10th MIL. and you can get scopes in 1/8th MOA and 1/10th MOA. I think at some point in history there was a 1/20th MIL scope but i am not aware of any now

 

[chaser_2332]

Pretty sure March scopes makes one