Is there a good powder for all 3? '06, 30-30, 223

[Northslope Nimrod]

I want to start buying components for Emergency Storage. My three rifle cartridges will be 30-30, 30-06 and .223. (still need to buy the .223)

Question: Is there a good powder that will perform well for all three?
Question 2: Is there any 411 on getting inexpensive powder, bullets and primers? (I know primers aren't that much...but I like saving a penny)

In '06 - I will be loading 165 grain. (I will probably match the velocity of some Manufacturer's premium ammo....not pushing the envelope or anything)

In 30-30.... I will be loading 170 grain (Could be 165).

In 223, I have no idea. Don't own one yet.

I just want the powder and components to crank out ammo.

 

[eliphalet]

Several powders will work in all three. Look your reloading manual over.

 

[eliphalet]

Several powders will work in all three. Look your reloading manual over. What works isn't necessary what is best.

 

[Tarvis]

If youre making WSHTF ammo, I would get a 223 with a faster twist, like 1-7 or 1-8 so you can shoot heavier bullets without issues. As far as using one type of powder, I would try to stay away from this. the 30-30 and the 30-06 may be ok/good/great with the same type of powder, but 223 is quite a bit different. I use Winchester 748 in my mini 14 and I'm happy with the results. I have heard from another guy that he liked the 748 and the reloading manual puts it at the most accurate, but thats in thier rifle. It is the slowest burning powder reccomended for 223 as far as i know, and I'm sure large rifle powders will make the gun go bang, but I'm willing to bet muzzle velocities will leave you wanting and if it is an auto loader, you may have problems with cycling the action, but I don't know.

You may find data on using the same powder for 30-30 and 223, as you may also find data for a powder used in 30-30 and 30-06, but I would most likely use 3 different powders for the best performance.

 

[Grandpa Shooter]

Varget for .223, 30-30, .308 & 30.06

 

[evan price]

+1 on Varget, or 4895.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I agree, 4895 or Varget will work with all three. Both will result in compressed loads in the .223 at Max charge.

Hodgdon BL-C(2) will work just as well for all three with slightly less pressures and without the compression.

 

[sourdough44]

4895 or Varget would be my choice also.

 

[USSR]

IMR4895.

Don

 

[John4me05]

Varget works form my 06 and 223

 

[K3]

Imr4895

 

[Tarvis]

I stand corrected. I guess I'm just not the "one for all" type of guy.

 

[P-32]

I stand corrected. I guess I'm just not the "one for all" type of guy.

I'm with you Tarvis. I shoot all of the calibers listed. I use what ever the rifle likes. This means I have IMR 4895, IMR 4064, IMR 4350, Reloader 15, and Varget. The IMR 4350 is for my '06 bolt guns. The rest is for my 223, 308 and '06 service rifles and 30-30 lever.

 

[John4me05]

I do it because it is THE right powder for both my 223 and 06.. Both will shoot sub MOA with the Varget

 

[kir_kenix]

vargent is great in the 06 and .223 (never loaded 30-30 with it). i have found that it is impossible to get a max load in .223 tho, there just isnt enough room in the case for certain bullet weights ymmv.

 

[jeepmor]

Another Varget and IMR4895 vote here. I'd pick whichever has the smallest grains for the best metering performance. But in the cartridges you listed, the only one I wouldn't trickle the charges into would be the .223.

On the larger rifle cartridges, I just set my powder throw a bit light, throw it into the scale pan and top it off with the trickler. It's worked well for me thus far, but it's arguable that it is not the most repeatable method if you drag out the caluclator and the statistics book.

 

[ADKWOODSMAN]

I've never used Varget but I can recommend IMR4895

 

[Chief 101]

Das three ones that you can use the same range in powders for and you have gotten the best answers for already in the 4895's and Varget. Chief aka Maxx Load

 

[R.W.Dale]

Varget Varget Varget

 

[Slamfire]

Imr 4895.

 

[swiss7.5]

imr4895

 

[JustsayMo]

Another vote for Varget for all three calibers. Mine all seem to favor at or very near max charges for best accuracy.

I've had good luck with 748 in 30-30. Never tried it in anything else.

IMR 4895 shoots well in my 30-06 but I haven't found the magic mixture in my 30-30 yet. I have a friend that has great luck with it in his 30-30...

 

[Tarvis]

win 748 works great in 223, the manual i use reccomends it for an accuracy load.

 

[jaholder1971]

I'm kinda surprised RL 15 hasn't been mentioned. Nearly identical burn rate to Varget and meters better. Varget does have RL15 beat on temperature insensitivity.