Is There A Kool-Aid In Revolver Flavor?

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If so, I've must've had a swig or two...after many autoloaders, I'm really feeling the urge to get back to wheelguns. So much so, I've bought an SP 101, a Model 25, a USFA SAA Premium, and a model 686 in the last 48 hours. I've had a model 27 for a while, and a model 36 for a couple months, and I just can't explain it: they all have so much more character than any semi-auto.

Talk amongst yourselves, and...

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No autoloader has ever turned me on like a good revolver. I prefer them for every task, except as a duty weapon.
 
I tend to think of the expression "Drinking the Kool-Aid" as indicating unreasonable enthusiasm for a product which outstrips its actual qualities. Generally this is accompanied by outrageous claims of superiority (or adequacy) for a plethora of tasks, which cause less affected onlookers to reevaluate the credibility of the speaker.

Using that definition, I'd say the Taurus Judge would have to be the only revolver that seems to draw this kind of "errore sufficientia."
 
My next Smith will be a 25-7 in at least a 6 1/2" barrel. My first revolver was an old model 10 that was given to me back in the 80's all the cool cats at the time were sporting autos, Dan Wesson .357's or pythons. I felt like a Barney Fife with my once servie revolver & couldn't wait to get rid of it (it was a great shooter though), now I really miss it & regret selling it for $50...
 
While I TOTALLY agree with Sam1911's statement about the Judge, I would expand it to new Smith owners.

They are able to argue that MIM parts are good, the lock is not an issue, Smith cares what their customers think and that things are better than ever when they clearly are not. With this in mind I would characterize them as Kool-Aid drinkers too.

I would also add the effete Colt owners...especially Python owners. While the Python is a fine gun (I own one) it is not the epitome of perfection. In fact, if you do not like the slight "stack", smoothness notwithstanding, you will not like the trigger.
 
I would expand it to new Smith owners.
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Indeed! And OLD Smith fans, too!

They are able to argue that MIM parts are demonstrably worse than parts made in other ways, the lock is a significant issue likely to cause a shooter some distress, that Smith shows no interest in potential customers want regardless of the amazing success of some of their new offerings, and that things were universally better back in the dark old days when clearly were not. With this in mind I would characterize them as Kool-Aid drinkers too.

But I try not to paint with too broad a brush.

;)
 
I prefer older S&W's and it has nothing to do with Kool Aid. No more than those of us who prefer Colt's and USFA's over Italian replicas, or Garands over AK's. I really don't give a rat's posterior about MIM parts. The internal lock is a deal breaker for myriad reasons. The biggest gripe is all the ways they've cheapened a once great revolver but prices continue to climb. If you don't see, understand or appreciate the difference, good for you. Just don't accuse those of us who do of being Kool Aid drinkers. The fact that we may have differing standards does not make us ignorant true-believers. :rolleyes:
 
I prefer older S&W's and it has nothing to do with Kool Aid
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Craig...that "old smith/ kool-aid" post was fired at me. A good natured jibe that I probably inadvertently asked for.

He and I will argue again about MIM parts, internal lock and Smith's arrogance. I just let it go this time so as not to send the thread on a tangent.

Or put another way...you are right, he is wrong. We just have higher standards. :D
 
Craig, don't assume for a second that either I or Guillermo really consider new-Smith or old-Smith fans to be "Kool-Aid drinkers," whatever that really is.

The concept itself is completely overblown and absurd, and the only way to keep it from becoming somewhat derisive or even offensive, is to lampoon it for the joke it really is.

Of course you have reasons for favoring the guns you choose to purchase! Who doesn't? That doesn't make you a "K.A.D!"


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Of course, you admit to liking Garands, so you must have drunk the Garand Kool-Aid! :what:

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Me too! And AKs, and SKSs, and Mausers, and Marlins, and S&W, and Springfield, and Enfields, and, and, and...
 
If there's any Koolaid being consumned by revolver owners I'd say it's more a case of a few different groups sipping at smaller amounts.

In that vein I'd suggest that K frame owners think that things went downhill fast with the removal of the K frame from the regular lineup..... as a K frame afficiendo I resemble my own remark...

Ruger Single Six owners think that their guns can do it all including provide for world peace and cure cancer..... interestingly enough I recently got one of my own and think that "we" may well be onto something if we could only get enough believers on board to form a proper cult...

Ruger New Vaquero fans like to fancy that they've got the best SAA of all. But thanks to internal designs by Ruger in the "New" models they've got a replica that sorta looks like an SAA but works very differently..... give me an honest 4 click action as Sam Colt intended or give me death I say...

S&W Model 17, 18 and K22 .22 owners will tell any who will listen that nothing can compare and how unique and superior these guns are to anything else in a .22 wheelgun.... sadly they are 100% right but their "holier than thou" attitude really ticks me off..... Oh wait, I've got a 17..... They tuly ARE a superior firearm befitting only the most deserving and fastiduous of Us, doanchuknow....

Actually if there's anything about wheelguns that has a high Kookaid Kuotient I'd say it has to be a round rather than a gun. The .357Mag cartridge seems to have gained a reputation consistent with a religious movement to the point that many gravitate to it and sing it's praises without really knowing how much is "enough" for a zero to 10 foot range of engagement that doesn't involve punching through a car door.
 
Sorry I took it seriously then. ;)

Actually I'm pretty indifferent about Garands. Nice but I don't own one and ain't in a hurry to. But I would take one any day of the week if my only other choice was an AK. :p
 
I believe the "drinking the kool-aid" term stems from the cult led by Jim Jones that offed themselves in, IIRC, the 1970's, with cyanide-laced kool-aid, after a congressman was shot by some of their members. The true believers drank the kool-aid willingly; the skeptical ones had to be forced to drink it. IIRC, a few were shot.

I can only think of autos as having numerous fanboys who blindly drink the combination of marketing and true-believer hype, with the exception of the already-mentioned Taurus Judge revolver.

Some say that believers in the .357 Magnum are buying into the marketing hype, but as one who actually used the .357 in a shooting back in the day, and saw the tremendous wound channel, there is substance to the support for the .357 Mag. Down here in Texas, we knew the .357 Magnum worked well, without needing to read anything written by Mas Ayoob, Evan Marshall, or Ed Sanow. (To be clear, I like Mas and Evan; not trying to start any fights here!) My wife is a forensic investigator, and has commented graphically on the wound channels chopped by both .357 Mag and 357 SIG, as well as the immediate effect, based on blood spatter evidence at the scenes. (Yes, "spatter," not "splatter.")

To be clear, many folks DO give the .357 Magnum too much credit, likening it to a science-fictional death ray. It is not. It does, however, bore some impressive holes into human bodies.
 
Small caliber snubnoses have some kind of odd power over me, not as much an effect of drinking kool-aid as drinking an intoxicating nectar of the gods.

My dad gave me a Ruger Vaquero .44-.40 with either a 6" or 8" barrel years ago before I was interested in guns. It is literally sitting on a shelf collecting dust.
 
For me it is any of the Ruger security/police six models. In autos CZ for me.

Coffee, Ice tea, Dr. Pepper, no kool aid.
 
I tend to drink the Colt Kool-Aid pretty heavily, but I've been known to drink from the S&W punchbowl too. My main criteria for both seems to be that they must be at least as old as me, and if they're older than my father or grandfather, all the better!

I've also been known to consume the auto-loader punch, at least when it has been spiked by J.M. Browning.
 
While I TOTALLY agree with Sam1911's statement about the Judge, I would expand it to new Smith owners.

They are able to argue that MIM parts are good, the lock is not an issue, Smith cares what their customers think and that things are better than ever when they clearly are not. With this in mind I would characterize them as Kool-Aid drinkers too.
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I came in here to post this. Lots of koolaid drinkin' going on with new Smith owners.
 
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