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Is there ANY one shotgun for all purposes?

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Panthera Tigris, Oct 9, 2006.

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  1. Panthera Tigris

    Panthera Tigris Member

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    Is there any single shotgun that could be used for home defense, trap, clay, skeet, and hunting?

    I'm not concerned about being terribly competitive at the shooting events, that would be more for training on my part and learning to just use a shotgun. I'm poor. I can't afford a shotgun for h.d,. one for hunting, one for skeet, etc.

    Thanks
     
  2. crunker

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    Well for home defense you need a shorter barrel, for sporting you need a longer barrel.

    So just get a Mossy or a Remmy with two barrels.
     
  3. rustymaggot

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    poor = mossberg. mossbergs are very durable guns. mossbergs have the two barrel combo deal for 199 new. get a pistol grip for it and switch em out when you want to shoot trap and such.
     
  4. Panthera Tigris

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    Thanks. I think I'll look into the 500, possibly that security combo if I can find it.
     
  5. Al Thompson

    Al Thompson Moderator Staff Member

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    A darn good compromise is a turkey gun. That's usually a 22 to 24 inch barrel on a good pump or auto. Short enough for HD, long enough for clay games. Buy one of those and get a few extra choke tubes and away you go.

    For sheer dollar value, the one gun two barrels is also good as is the two used for one new gun's price. With some careful shopping (around here) one can get two used 870s for about $400 or a bit more.

    Guess it depends on what your budget actually is and if your OK with used guns or not.
     
  6. Panthera Tigris

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    Well, Gander Mt said since I have not taken the L.H. 870 Express out of the box I bought from them last week, they will probably give me what I paid for it to take it back on trade. I could take both it and the Mossberg 590A-1 I bought to Gander Mt and look for a turkey gun in the range you mention.

    I lean toward Mossberg because I have to shoot left handed and it has the ambidextrous safety. So, since they don't carry the Mossberg Security Combo, I think I will look for the 24 inch turkey gun, then possibly get a 28 inch barrel for it, and someday down the road an 18 inch barrel. I don't know if I'd like the standard Remington safety with a right hand model, when I have to shoot left handed.

    Thanks.
     
  7. TrapperReady

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    Why do you NEED a short barrel for a HD gun? If I need to take care of my family, I don't care if the gun has an 18.5" barrel or a 32" barrel.
     
  8. The Deer Hunter

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    I could see 32" being a little bit accesive for HD
     
  9. wdlsguy

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    It's pretty easy to replace the right-handed safety with a left-handed one.
     
  10. Panthera Tigris

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    I don't need a short barrel for h.d. 28" would be fine. I just want to find a decent shotgun that I can use for h.d. and trap, because the only ranges in my area that allow shotguns are trap/clay/skeet ranges. So whatever I get needs to be able to do all three.

    I know most that frequent the trap/clay ranges use semi autos rather than pumps, for example.

    I'm not convinced the left handed 870 Express I bought is the way to go because I'm not finding any interchangeable barrels for it, and very few replacement barrels. If the l.h. Express is fine for all of these purposes, then I'll sell the 590a-1 and just keep the Express.

    The better built Wingmaster doesn't come in l.h., and I'm not sure about its style of safety shooting a r.h. gun left handed.

    I've no experience with shotguns other than the basic take down for cleaning. I don't really want to have to tinker with one any more than I have to.
     
  11. TrapperReady

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    If it's what I've got at hand, so be it. I'm not looking for trouble in my own home. I stay put and call for help, ready to deal with anything that gets too close.

    We've got quite a variety of shotguns around the place, from an NEF youth single-shot to custom competition O/Us, to "plain-jane" pumps and a Winchester Defender for "HD" use.

    Guess what I'd grab if something went south? Whatever is closest at hand. AND, I wouldn't feel undergunned with any of them.

    I think the concept of "needing" a particular shotgun (or any gun... hell... any particular object) for defense is kind of silly. I might prefer certain guns for certain situations (which is why we've got a wide assortment), but NEED is something else entirely.
     
  12. Panthera Tigris

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    Well, every single LEO I know tells me to have a shotgun for home defense, rather than a handgun. Every single one. A handgun is not practical for an apartment, as almost all handgun rounds will go through the drywall into adjacent apartments. And I don't subscribe to the "I hit what I aim at" comments either, because quite frankly, most who say that aren't being shot at when they're doing the aiming. A shotgun best suits my purpose for apartment defense.

    Yes, I hope it never happens. But, on top of that, I hate handguns. I've owned almost every type and manufacturer of handguns you can think of over the last 4 or 5 years. Not all, but most. And I've fired several more that I didn't own. All makes and types. And I've pretty much hated all of them. So, I'm sticking with a shotgun for home defense. And, the more I study them, the more I think I might like to do some shotgun target shooting. After all, that's the only way I'm going to get any practice with it. So, I need one that can be used for at least one of the other styles apart from h.d.
    Plus, as I said, I'm poor. The ultimate thing for me to do would be to keep the Express, use it at the clay/trap ranges, and the 590 would just sit at home in case it's ever needed. But then I'd never get to shoot the 590 and why have one if I'm never going to shoot it?

    So I lean toward trading both for one better built gun in 26" or longer that will also have more available out there for interchangeability. Maybe I'll look at a Wingmaster and check the right handed safety out, see if I can manipulate it left handed. I could always hold the gun in the left hand, and flip off the safety with my right before gripping the forearm.
     
  13. Panthera Tigris

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    I think I may have found it!

    How about the Browning BPS Hunter in 12 gauge? I'd think it would be ok for trap, and I've no problem with a 28" shotgun for h.d.
     
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    No. But I do think that the Mossberg 500 security is a great gun.
     
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    If they don't have the Security combo, get a Mossberg 500 with a 28" barrel, should run about $200. Then you can get an 18.5" cylinder-bore 12-gauge barrel from Mossberg for $74 plus shipping. It ends up almost the same as buying the combo--the cheapest I've ever seen the combo is $260 and they're usually closer to $300.
     
  16. Panthera Tigris

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    That is one of the options I am considering.
     
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    Yes,Benelli M2.

    I used it for Trap , skeet, sporting clays, turkey, gonna use it for duck and goose and would have no problem usingit for upland game, slug hunting or HD






    And i wouldnt even have to clean it
     
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    Buy a pawn shop 870 for about $150... then hit some gun shops looking for a 870 30 inch full choke barrel that does not have tubes. Offer them 35 bucks for it. They will probably take it. Git it home and get the hacksaw and make it into at 19 inch barrel for in the house work. Take a moderate fine file and clean it up square. hunting gun and HD gun for under two bills.
     
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    "How about the Browning BPS Hunter in 12 gauge?"

    That would be my choice.

    One of these days I'm going to get around to buying a short barrel for one of my shotguns. The trouble is I'd buy a 20" bbl. for my 870 Exp. and the gun would end up being only 8" shorter. Just doesn't seem worth it given the layout of my house.

    John
     
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    FWIW, all of the LEO's in my neck of the woods have shotguns in their squad cars, with 26-28" barrels on them. The difference in patterning between a 18" barrel and a 28" barrel is just that the 28" gun will give the same pattern as the 18" gun, just 10 inches farther (assuming same ammo and choke diameter). A shorter barrel would probably be easier to move around inside of a house for tactical clearing, etc. However, most people aren't going to be diong this, they're going to be in their bedroom's, on the phone until the police show up.

    I would second the turkey gun option (don't buy a ***mossberg 835 though), just get some extra choke tubes and you can use it for pretty much anything.

    ***Moss 835 = overbored barrel, you can't fire slugs thru their standard field barrels. Hence my recommendation away from them. I've owned one for several years that's done quite well.

    YMMV
     
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    I would say a nice OU or SxS with 26" barrels and removable chokes. It would be just like a revolver, limited in capacity and able to shoot anything.
     
  22. Panthera Tigris

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    An over/under you say? My local Gander Mt flier for this week has the Remington SPR310 O/U on sale. It has three interchangeable choke tubes. It's a 28" inch barrel however.
     
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    I was just think it's good to have the choices and options. Alot of guys don't agree with interchageable barrels, and wouldn't consider interchageable barrels. I'm thinking come on, it's a shotgun. Anyhow just as another option a shotgun with a 24" barrel and interchageable chokes makes a good alternate. Anything from C, IC, M, X, Turkey, even rifled chokes.
     
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    It really isn't that bad. I managed to do it myself and I'm not very mechanically inclined.

    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=211664
     
  25. IDriveB5

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    Yes there is, and I've got it:
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    My RM870ESM

    There aint nothing this shotgun wont do, and wont do well.

    I'd like to co-sign TrapperReady's statement:
    Just need to change out the forearm and make my LOP adjustment permanent so it aint so damn ugly.
     
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