Is this Dragoon uhhhh, a little 'funny'?

Status
Not open for further replies.
The one I got from kwhi43 looks a little bit better. Oh yea Phil my son came over tonight, thought I would have to fight him to keep that thing here. Another one on the way to the Dark Side
 
Why is the "1922" improperly stamped on the cylinder? The top of the numbers are gone, but there is insufficient wear meaning they were not made by punches to be used on a rounded surface? Isn't that a bit "off" for Colt for that period? Maybe I'm wrong?

LD
 
So many fakes out there I think some are getting better but lot to pay for a copy
 

Attachments

  • 29aqqtd.jpg
    29aqqtd.jpg
    29.4 KB · Views: 43
Compare the cylinder markings on a fine cased Third Model Dragoon sold by a major auction house last year for $31,000. The bottom line should read "COLT'S PATENT". The Gun Broker cylinder has obviously been very crudely restamped.
2cmxmba.jpg
 
Kinda fun, huh!~


I see what appear to me to be investment Casting sprue 'ghosts' and superficial shrinkage fissures on the Grip where the Stocks are removed -






All those tiny dents on the sides of the Wedge area, and, all the dents and deformation on the Barrel top above...might even be 'genuine', if the Revolver belonged previously to someone who would hit it with things in those areas, trying to get the Barrel Assembly off of the Arbor ( instead of using the Loading Lever on a half-bore position of the Cylinder, to do it ).
 
On the left, the "U.S." on the frame of a martially marked Third Model Dragoon with a serial number about 400 numbers away from the one in question. On the right, the one in question.
3586tdx.gif
 
In Berkley's comparative imagea above -

Where the Brass Trigger Guard meets the Frame, on the authentic Original, we see a refined Bevel leaving a sort of almost Knife edge to the Brass, parallel to the lower Frame...

On the impostor, we see an indifferent treatment there.

Also, some difference to the profile of the lower Frame itself...where the front of the Trigger Guard ends.
 
Barrel markings are two slight variations of: ADDRESS SAML COLT NEW-YORK CITY
Click to expand...
-Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms
Barrel...Marked - ADDRESS SAML COLT NEW YORK CITY -
Click to expand...
Colt Firearms 1836-1960, James E. Serven
efjbkp.gif
"COLT'S PT. F.A. MFG. CO. HARTFORD CT. U.S.A." was not used until after Sam Colt's death, during the cartridge era (factory conversions and original cartridege pistols).
 
In this instance, Screw Threads are the least of his worries.

But, if all else were 'right' and, Screw Threads not-right, it would suggest one is looking at a very very good copy, anyway.
 
I compared my Uberti to the comparison photos and my cylinder markings are very close to the original. Except it doesn't say Colts Patent, that space is blank.

My Uberti has very few markings. Only about 5 faint proofs, 2 serial numbers, and the cylinder markings. There are no markings at all on the top of the barrel.
 
I have a question??? Could it be an antique fake? I mean somebody made it 100 years ago to fake being a Colt, sold it as such, and so it's an antique fake, and not a faked antique? :D Might be cool if it was such, but you folks are right, not worth $5K.

LD
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top