Is this everything I need to start?

[Lcpl Martin]

So i am looking to throwing some money at it. Here is what I got put together so far. I just have the 32 SW Longs on there since my budget is so tight right now.

Main Set
Lee Challenger Breech Lock Single Stage Press Anniversary Kit - MidwayUSA

Case Trimmer
Lee Zip Trim - MidwayUSA

Die Set (Do i need the set of 3 or just 1 and if just 1 which one?)
Lee Carbide 3-Die Set 32 S&W Long, 32 Colt New Police - MidwayUSA

32 SW Long Brass
Remington Brass 32 S&W Long - MidwayUSA

Bullet
Magtech Bullets 32 S&W (312 Diameter) 85 Grain Lead Round Nose - MidwayUSA

Electric Caliper
Frankford Arsenal Electronic Caliper 6" Stainless Steel - MidwayUSA

Powder How many loads of 32 SW Longs do you think this will supply? I read that it will be enough for over 1000 rounds of 32.
Accurate 1680 Smokeless Powder 1 lb - MidwayUSA

Powder (this is Bullseye Should i get this instead since it would load well for 9mm as well?)

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=214543

Primers (THIS IS THE CORRECT PRIMERS RIGHT?)
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=332027

This is everything correct? $228.53 Total, I guess its not much but man it seems like a ton of money. I might need to get a second part time job just to pay for my shooting.

http://www.hammerzone.com/archives/workshop/bench/below20xl.html
for a workbench

 

[Tim the student]

Did you read this sticky? http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=238214

I didn't see a manual, or a loading tray on your list. I apologize if I missed them.

ETA: Also, buying primers and powder online will necessitate paying a Hazmat fee. You will (hopefully) be able to buy that stuff locally for cheaper when you factor that in.

Powder How many loads of 32 SW Longs do you think this will supply? I read that it will be enough for over 1000 rounds of 32.

There are 7000 grains in a pound. I don't know what the charges may be for 32, but you can do the math to see how many rounds you can make from a pound.

Welcome to THR.

 

[Walkalong]

1680 is unsuitable for .32 long. Bullseye will work, as will many other fast pistol powders. Your links don't work. A good manual is a must. Do check out the sticky Tim linked to.

 

[Walkalong]

I guess its not much but man it seems like a ton of money

It does when you have to buy everything. It gets better. Your brass can be reused over & over, you will find better bulk deals on good bullet, etc. Google Missouri Bullets

Welcome to THR

 

[greyling22]

I wouldn't mess with the calipers and case trimmer if you are on a budget, and it might be cheaper to buy powder and primers locally (if possible) because you get into hazardous shipping fees that can be more than the cost of the components. Any small pistol primer (not magnum) should work. You will need a 3 die set. or a 4 if you want to use the factory crimp die. A lee die set comes with some basic reloading information (what powders and bullets work together) and every powder maker has free load information available on their website. a couple of mtm cartridge holders would be nice to have too, unless you have empty boxes lying around.

May I make a suggestion though? get a turret press instead of a single stage press. One like this one http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=622290 it's the lee 4 hole turret press kit. or for a couple bucks less just get a turret press and auto disk separately. you will load faster with less chance of knocking over trays of partially done cases, double charging the powder etc. It's easy to change calibers, the auto disk smokes manually dropping your powder. If you were loading for just low volume rifle rounds a single stage press might be the ticket, but handgun ammo, turret press all the way.

 

[Walkalong]

greyling22 makes a good point. For .32 long you don't need a trimmer or a caliper. Load the bullets to the cannelure, and go.

 

[greyling22]

also, if you mount your press to a scrap piece of lumber you can C-clamp it to your coffee table or work bench instead of buying a reloading bench. And you won't save ANY money reloading. you will just shoot lots more.

And you should be able to load at least 1k on a pound of powder. probably more.

make sure you buy carbide dies (dies made from carbide, you won't have to lube cases, most all lee pistols dies are carbide)

also midway has coupon codes right now. expires jan 10. discount will probably not show up until the final page of checkout.
$10 off 100, 100110
20 off 200 200110
30 off 300 300110

 

[Lcpl Martin]

"ETA: Also, buying primers and powder online will necessitate paying a Hazmat fee. You will (hopefully) be able to buy that stuff locally for cheaper when you factor that in."
I live 15 miles from Midway so lucky me I have the ABC's of Reloading ordered, as for trays I did not have any. I will have to add that. Thank you

"also, if you mount your press to a scrap piece of lumber you can C-clamp it to your coffee table or work bench instead of buying a reloading bench. And you won't save ANY money reloading. you will just shoot lots more."
Not sure if Wife would go for this but its worth a try Thanks for the coupon codes 20 bucks back is nice!
"I wouldn't mess with the calipers and case trimmer if you are on a budget"
Yea I want to load for my 7.7 jap, 9mm, and 7.62X54R eventually but for now I just want to load up my 32. Thanks a ton for all the info and saved money!

 

[Steve C]

The Lee Aniversary kit will have everything you need to load the .32 S&W Long. I'd suggest the 95gr bullet for the S&W LONG rather than the 85gr as you will find more data for the 95gr.

Don't bother with any of the case trimming items, as they're not needed.

The same .32 s&W die set from Lee will load all the straight wall .32 revolver cartridges including the short, long, and H&R Magnum.

A pound of the appropriate powder should load around 2,000 shells, just divide 7000 grs/lb by the grains used per load.

Bullseye will work fine but also consider Red Dot, Unique or any of the powders found in the .32 s&W long data from the Speer #9 manual below.

Use only the lower start loads if you are shooting your ammo in an old top break "suicide special" pistol. The max loads can be used in a solid frame pistol with swing out cylinder from Colt or S&W or any modern pistol (made in the last 30 years).

 

[Lcpl Martin]

I'm firing from a Nagant 1895 revolver, thanks for all the information.

 

[greyling22]

that's the beauty of a turret press mounted to a board. set your stuff up, pop in a movie, load a hundred rounds, put it away until next time.

 

[Lcpl Martin]

About how long would you say it takes to load a batch of 200?

 

[greyling22]

When watching a movie?
With a turret press? 2-3 hours.
single stage press? longer. maybe double that.
progressive press like a dillian? 20-30 minutes.

movies distract me and slow me down, but they break the tedium.

the nice thing about a turret or progressive press is that you don't have to batch them. you load one complete round after the next instead of priming 100, putting powder in 100, knocking over the tray and putting powder in 100 again, putting bullets in 100. As long as you are trying to get everything in one fell swoop, might I suggest a bullet puller? http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=215517 it's handy when you realize you loaded up 15 rounds with the wrong powder or a backwards primer or no powder or the loads you worked up aren't accurate or too powerful or you seated a bullet too deep when setting up your dies.

 

[RustyFN]

On a single stage press around 3 to 4 hours. On a Lee classic turret around 1 hour.

 

[Lcpl Martin]

Is there an advantage to starting with the stage press over the turret?

 

[Walkalong]

I don't think so.

 

[FROGO207]

I use a single stage press for the control over each stage as an accuracy standpoint. The progressives are faster when making a batch of pistol cases but slower = quality IMHO. As far as a loading block goes if you or a friend has a drill press you can take a board and make a grid on the top spaced appropriately and set the press to drill at one depth then drill holes of the proper size in the board. 50 holes is a good number for a block. Make sure the holes are big enough for the rims of the brass and some extra space besides. Holes should be between 3/8 and 1/2 inch deep for most but for the shorter cases a shallower hole would be wise. +1 on the not needing a case trimmer just yet on straight walled pistol cases as they will most likely not get appreciably longer after many firings.
A PM on the way Rick