Is your AK compliant ?

[CYANIDEGENOCIDE]

define a US made part, if you have a mill couldn't you make your own hammer, and trigger and wouldn't those parts be more "made in the US" than say something cast in mexico and finished in the US? by that logic, what's to stop someone from importing hammers and triggers and just stamping them US? Tapco stuff has US in relief so it would be much harder to do.
My question is how much or the part has to be made in the US does the steel have to be mined from the US, processed in the US, parts machined and finished, and shipped from the US; or is it just a case of some company saying its parts are made here and that alone qualifies.

 

[Deus Machina]

I'm betting it's the same as any qualification that a company could stamp a part "made in the US".

Chances are, they get the raw material and cast or CNC machine it in the States. That's usually cheaper overall than casting or rough-machining something in Mexico, then shipping it and running it on separate machines to finish it.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

I may be alone in left field on this, but isn't 922r compliance enforced more on the importer/builder, and less on the purchaser/owner?

 

[jhansman]

I may be alone in left field on this, but isn't 922r compliance enforced more on the importer/builder, and less on the purchaser/owner?

Actually, no, at least not here in the PRK. We are expected to keep our firearms state and federal compliant, and the rangemaster where I shoot refuses to play gun cop. So, my converted Saiga, while 922r compliant, is so only because I have seen to it, not because anyone is holding me to compliance. The rifle came into the U.S. compliant (the only way it could come in) but once I started in on it, the responsibility falls on me.

 

[Kilgor]

"Some stainless is magnetic--that stainless is often also prone to rusting if horribly abused, but is often stronger than other stainless steels. Magnetic stainless is rare enough that, if it's not visibly stainless, it's often safe to assume that it's actually chromed carbon.

Most stainless does not attract a magnet, but it also softer than carbon steels.

Which steel a company uses is up to them. Non-magnetic stainless is liable to wear quicker than carbon steels, whereas magnetic stainless can, eventually, show some rust. In the case of the latter, most companies would go with standard steels and likely chrome it."

"No sir. When I have build parties, I demonstrate with a commie take-off piston and a new US piston the difference.

The commie take-off piston sticks to the magnet like nobody's business, and the US piston just falls onto the workbench.

I'm sure there's some stainless that is magnetic, but I've never seen it used in the making of a gas piston."

Interesting. I know magnets stick to a stainless refrigerator, but perhaps it's attracted to a nonstainless metal beneath the stainless veneer? I also just tested a magnet on a stainless 1911 slide and it stuck.

I think the blame falls on the nebulous nature of the term "stainless" as both of you pointed out.

 

[nalioth]

My question is how much or the part has to be made in the US does the steel have to be mined from the US, processed in the US, parts machined and finished, and shipped from the US; or is it just a case of some company saying its parts are made here and that alone qualifies.

Your raw materials can come from anywhere (Ironwood Designs uses some absolutely gorgeous wood from around the world), but it must be turned into the part here in the USA.

"Turned into the part" = "made".

You can take a Romanian wood butt stock and cut pistol grips out of it. Those pistol grips will count as "US made", but the original butt stock will not.

 

[saigafreake]

When i buy an ak i take the 2 minutes b4 the purchase to take it apart and check for compliance.

 

[Deus Machina]

I think the blame falls on the nebulous nature of the term "stainless" as both of you pointed out.

Yup. Some stainless is pretty much a mild or high-carbon steel alloyed enough to make it not require oil to prevent rust under usual conditions. Other stuff barely actually counts as steel.

The term covers a wide range, with a wider range of properties than any two normal steels.

 

[Guitargod1985]

It does what I tell it to.

LMAO

 

[amprecon]

aomagrat:

Is your AK compliant ?

It does what I tell it to.

I don't think too many people got that one........funny

 

[WardenWolf]

My Saiga is in an import-legal configuration and therefore does not need to be compliant. I put the skeleton stock on it, but Saigas are imported with the skeleton stock without modification (because the grip comes down from the stock behind the receiver, it is not considered a true pistol grip by BATF).

That being said, I am looking at converting it soon. I have a PSL stock I'd like to put on it, and if I converted it I would use Tapco trigger group parts to ensure I was in compliance (since PSL's are legal to import, it would be importable with a foreign 10-round magazine and compliant with a US-made high-cap).