Israeli Commando Invents Gun That Can Shoot Around Corners !!!

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In this handout picture made available Tuesday Oct. 28, 2003 by the Israel-based Cornershot Co. in Tel Aviv, Israel, a rifle is seen composed of two parts; the front, that can swivel from side to side, containing a pistol with a color camera mounted on top, and the back section which consists of the stock, trigger and a monitor. According to a report by the Israeli daily 'Maariv' newspaper, the pistol, produced by the Florida-based Cornershot Holdings, is being tested by the Israeli military and has already been bought by a number of special forces around the world. The unique weapon allows a soldier to remain behind cover, with only the barrel of the rifle exposed in the direction of the hostile fire. (AP Photo/HO, Cornershot)

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/031028/481/jrl80410282057
 
I remember seeing a similar Nerf gun during my youth that had a mirror mounted above the pivot point of the gun, but I never got to try it out, as I bought the one with a "laser" scope (really a flashlight with red plastic lens adjustable for windage and elevation that turned on whenever you took up the slack in the trigger) instead. The trigger-activated light sure did not reinforce good trigger discipline.

Kharn
 
Here's the blurb and the pic:


In this handout picture made available Tuesday Oct. 28, 2003 by the Israel-based Cornershot Co. in Tel Aviv, Israel, a rifle is seen composed of two parts; the front, that can swivel from side to side, containing a pistol with a color camera mounted on top, and the back section which consists of the stock, trigger and a monitor. According to a report by the Israeli daily 'Maariv' newspaper, the pistol, produced by the Florida-based Cornershot Holdings, is being tested by the Israeli military and has already been bought by a number of special forces around the world. The unique weapon allows a soldier to remain behind cover, with only the barrel of the rifle exposed in the direction of the hostile fire.
 

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Call for MicroBalog...

Gun by Israel or Sony? :D More seriously, what do you know MicroBalog?

BTW, Reminds me of the "Yankee" trick of attaching small mirrors to their buttstocks so they can shoot the Confederates without having to expose themselves. Needless to say, this bit of "Yankee" ingenuity did little to endear them to the Confederates.
 
Replace the electronics with optics and the concept is quite old.

If used with a stoutish cartridge, the recoil vectors could be interesting.

Sam
 
http://www.cornershot.com/

i can see some interesting paralax issues

and a liability probem if the video camera goes out of boresite

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it looks like the shooting fish in a barrel approach to marksmanship
you set up a shot and wait for the target to enter the limited field of fire

i gather the next step is to WiFi the camera and gun and sit back at the office

i wonder if you could spoof the camera
like they did in "Toys"

http://www.army-technology.com/contractors/machine_guns/corner_shot/index.html
 
Is this a mock-up photo? I see no aiming mechanism integrated into the viewscreen.

Wouldn't a rifle (carbine) caliber make more sense?

Reminds me of the German WWII streetfighting MG concept.
 
so i gather this beastie is a BATFE short barreled rifle here in the USA

the Army website claims you can mount a variety of weapons in the front end

including a paintball marker

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Jeepers. Don't count on a "double tap" because the recoil would have to knock you way off alignment (compensated or not!)

ChickenHawk
 
This is probably one of the worse gimmicky ideas I've seen. I mean I haven't seen the gun in action, but how the hell are you supposed to aim that thing once it's pointed around a corner? Like in the picture.. does the thing rotate up automatically - cuz if it doesn't all you're gonna end up with is ankle shots. What if the soldier needs to make a windage adjustment, does he have to keep on picking up the front end until he gets it right? And what about the limited FOV. How do you know what a kids not gonna come walking into the line of fire? And why a pistol?! Defintely not as accurate or powerful as rifle round and probably only 15 rd max capacity. What a waste of money.
 
IIRC, the Germans during WWII had an MP40 in 9mm with a curved barrel to use to shoot around corners. I think it actually worked. There is one at the small arms museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. I seem to recall seeing one of those MP40s there.
 
"Seems rather complicated and bulky to me. Wouldn't it be easier just to throw a grenade?"

I was just going to post the same thing. Governments will buy these at 20k/copy instead of passing out dental mirrors. You look, if there is someone there that needs killing, you toss a grenade around the corner.
 
Did y'all notice the folding stock?



During WWII, the US Army issued, in limited numbers, an attachment for the M3 & M3A1 Submachine guns (Grease Guns) that was designed to enable tankers to fire through an open hatch. It was nothing more than a large curved trough that deflected bullets 90º. My father, who was in Patton's 3rd, said they sorta worked, but accuracy was strictly spray & pray.
 
IIRC, the Germans during WWII had an MP40 in 9mm with a curved barrel to use to shoot around corners. I think it actually worked. There is one at the small arms museum at Aberdeen Proving Ground in Maryland. I seem to recall seeing one of those MP40s there.
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There is, or at least was, an example of one of those on display at the Patton Museum.

I seem to recall hearing somewhere that the curved barrel only lasted for a couple of hundred rounds before it wore out.
 
It seems to me that the urge to develop a gun for firing around corners is the hallmark of misdirected policy.
  • During World War I outdated tactics designed to maximize an officer's ability to control his men (moving forward together en-masse), and the widespread use of machine guns, led to the horrors of trench warfare. While the real problems were being gradually worked out (at a terrible price), all sides also developed elaborate rifles for shooting over the top of trenches
  • During the Second World War, the Germans developed an attachement for the MP-40. But was the problem really that they needed a sub-gun for shooting around corners, or was the problem that their leadership was forcing them to engage in prolonged urban bloodbaths that they would have much rather cut off and avoided?
  • Also during WWII, the United States developed the attachment for tankers, to use their grease guns from inside the tank. Obviously, the presence of enemy infantry on your tank is a symptom of insufficient infantry support, not the need for shooting around corners...
  • Finally the Israelis, who are mired in a conflict in the West Bank where political constraints prevent them from dealing with intermingled "civilian", gunmen, and stone throwers. Once again the need to shoot around corners rears its head

Maybe I'm way off here, but every example of the around-the-corner system that I see though out history appears to be a tactical patch for a strategic or political problem.

edited to add: While posting in another thread, I realized that the same can be said for the LDA that I carry because my deparment won't allow 1911s. Had a Pogo moment there, I did I did...
 
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