wannabeagunsmith
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"They" will use the new NY law as a measuring stick for the rest of the country. Wait and see.
It is not just New York
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Silent Bob
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I fully expect Lord High Obama to praise the passing of this onerous bill and its courageous supporters during his propaganda theater tomorrow with the chillren and will announce that similar legislation is what he wants to see become law of the land across the entire United States.
xfyrfiter
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I think it is time to IMPEACH any rep who votes against the Constitution.
Hunter125
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Agreed. There is a Texas Rep saying he will push for Obama's impeachment if he tries to go against Congress or the Constitution.
Gunnerboy
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Hope you got your things together.
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.
Little CCR anyone?
Hope you are quite prepared to die.
Looks like we're in for nasty weather.
One eye is taken for an eye.
Little CCR anyone?
zxcvbob
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I'm not sure that treaty is still valid after The Great Unpleasantness -- Texas may have abandoned it when it seceded in 1861.
Sam1911
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And a few million gun owners will finally get scared enough to keep it from happening elsewhere. It sucks for NY, but might be the jolt of lightning needed to spark some others awake!
Silent Bob
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It should tell them that the anti-gunners will not remain happy with merely limiting magazines to ten rounds, if nothing else.
Cesiumsponge
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So, how many people actually tried to boycott, impeach, or take action after the passage of the 1994 AWB? Everyone seems to talk a big game but everyone quietly took what little scraps remained after the federal AWB passed. No one did anything when CA, NY, and other states retained their state-level AWB.
Why should NY this time around be any different because they've taken way three more bullets and dropped the evil parts to one? What makes this intrusion worse than the last?
Why should NY this time around be any different because they've taken way three more bullets and dropped the evil parts to one? What makes this intrusion worse than the last?
ApacheCoTodd
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Absolutely!
It never is "just NY..." nor is it ever "just California..." The eliteists on either coast just can't stand it when they pass progressive legislation for them selves and the "fly-over" states don't follow their example.
They pick and gnaw till they force their way on everyone else. Attaching highway funds and any of the modern super funds created in the last 30 years (I believe) are at least as much to do with spreading a blanket of fiscal control to bring the rest of the country more in line with the beliefs in NYC and California.
It never is "just NY..." nor is it ever "just California..." The eliteists on either coast just can't stand it when they pass progressive legislation for them selves and the "fly-over" states don't follow their example.
They pick and gnaw till they force their way on everyone else. Attaching highway funds and any of the modern super funds created in the last 30 years (I believe) are at least as much to do with spreading a blanket of fiscal control to bring the rest of the country more in line with the beliefs in NYC and California.
Rory McCanuck
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Quite simply, the internet. Communications among like minded individuals is much easier nowadays. It is much easier to organise writing campaigns or any other form of protest.
Communication has allowed us in Canada to claw back some rights; there i still a long way to go. You have a great tool at your fingertips, and a 2nd amendment right to back you up.
Use them or lose them.
chipcom
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In 94 I was in New Mexico, serving in elected office, actively working with the NRA...while at the same time caching supplies & munitions and training with our chapter of the New Mexcio militia. ;-)
You make an excellent and valid point. Sorry folks, but we got fat, dumb and happy...me from my delusion of retirement from public service, way too many of the rest of you because you were all happy with your new CC permits, not realizing that you pretty much destroyed decades of resistance to any kind of registration scheme by happily registering yourselves as handgun owners in exchange for permission from the government to do something you have always had the right to do anyway. (This was the issue that drove me from the NRA)
The internet is a great place to vent, and some of you don't seem to mind the fact that you have given away so many of your other rights since 9/11...including free speech, due process and privacy. Indeed, you now live in an environment where what you say could get you a nice drone-fired missle up the okole, if you know what I mean. But venting is not a substitute for action. Don't depend on the NRA to do the work for you, and don't expect ANY politician go to the mat for you.
So by all means, bug the crap out of your politicians...but don't depend on them to get the job done for you. You can pretty much bet that some kind of bill is going to pass and we're not going to like it. So the key question you need to ask, is what are you gonna do when it does?
Okiegunner
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On Aril 14, 2011, Governor Fallin of Oklahoma signed into law, the State holiday of Oklahoma Second Amendment Day.
Second Amendment Day is celebrated every June 28. This marks the day that "McDonald vs. the City of Chicago" was decided. On this day the Supreme Court nullified the City of Chicago's ban on handguns.
This bill also gives Oklahoma business owners the right to use firearms if they have a reasonable of bodily harm. This will also allow store employees to defend themselves against dangerous criminals without fear of reprisal by the state.
I quote, "This holiday is designed and intended for Oklahomans to celebrate the right of private citizens to keep and bear arms".
Second Amendment Day is celebrated every June 28. This marks the day that "McDonald vs. the City of Chicago" was decided. On this day the Supreme Court nullified the City of Chicago's ban on handguns.
This bill also gives Oklahoma business owners the right to use firearms if they have a reasonable of bodily harm. This will also allow store employees to defend themselves against dangerous criminals without fear of reprisal by the state.
I quote, "This holiday is designed and intended for Oklahomans to celebrate the right of private citizens to keep and bear arms".
What do you suggest we do about it?
chipcom
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I'm not here to do your thinking for you. ;-)
Personally, I'm not really concerned about what they pass...like my daddy (a cop) always told me, "passing a law is easy...enforcing it is another story".
I'm going to do what I have always done...adapt, improvise, overcome and, when required, resist.
Many expect some jackbooted confiscation nightmare...I am a bit more realistic. They're going to continue to do what they have always done...nickle and dime us to death, taking the quarter or even a buck when they can get it (like now) - administratively.
Tell you one thing for sure...I won't be running down to register whatever it is they're going to want me to register (and you know they will want us to register...probably as a condition of "grandfathering") any more than I ran out and registered myself for those goofy CC permits.
this was my thought as well. Hopefully the rest of the country will take notice and NY gun owners will be heard as a warning. This rejection of the original intent of the 2A is really disturbing and I can't figure out how to address it directly aside from pointing out the Arab Spring as the most recent equivalent. Even then, sheep just don't listen or understand because it's taking place across the world instead of their own front yard.
browningguy
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I predict we won't follow along in Texas.
InkEd
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This whole mess ........NOT JUST THE GUN BAN.....
(Also, the economy which has not improved, unemployment, devaluation of our currency, forced healthcare plans, disregard for people's religious beliefs in the passing of certain laws, increased taxation, uncontrolled spending, bail-outs and government oversight of private industry, registration of private property, oppression of Constitutional Rights, ruling by order instead of legislation, questionable legitimacy of many things, etc)
........end a literal call to arms.
I have never seen the country so divided, angry, and unsettled as it has been under this administration. Genuinely, I have sincere concerns about the future of our country. I hope that people on BOTH SIDES would focus ON THE REAL PROBLEMS rather than furthering
stupid political AGENDAS that will make no difference on things other than to provide a
small economic boost from panic buying and eventually making black marketers wealthy.
THE GOVERNMENT MUST START LISTENING TO THE REAL CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS.
May God Forbid. May God Bless. May God Protect.
(Also, the economy which has not improved, unemployment, devaluation of our currency, forced healthcare plans, disregard for people's religious beliefs in the passing of certain laws, increased taxation, uncontrolled spending, bail-outs and government oversight of private industry, registration of private property, oppression of Constitutional Rights, ruling by order instead of legislation, questionable legitimacy of many things, etc)
........end a literal call to arms.
I have never seen the country so divided, angry, and unsettled as it has been under this administration. Genuinely, I have sincere concerns about the future of our country. I hope that people on BOTH SIDES would focus ON THE REAL PROBLEMS rather than furthering
stupid political AGENDAS that will make no difference on things other than to provide a
small economic boost from panic buying and eventually making black marketers wealthy.
THE GOVERNMENT MUST START LISTENING TO THE REAL CONCERNS OF THE PEOPLE AND THEIR NEEDS.
May God Forbid. May God Bless. May God Protect.
If we stay quite, yes. NY is a reminder that it (the "crisis") didn't go away. It is down to us to contact, pressure, and debate as much as possible, not just with other people, but sending letters, faxes, emails, phone calls, and so on.
Make a group. Call yourself Patriot Sportsman for Common Sense... The idiot politician will take your call and you can tell him that these bans will stop nothing, they will create black markets and REAL innocent people will likely die as a result. It is a poor repayment to the veterans of this country and it's past citizens to take a crap all over their legacy.
Make a group. Call yourself Patriot Sportsman for Common Sense... The idiot politician will take your call and you can tell him that these bans will stop nothing, they will create black markets and REAL innocent people will likely die as a result. It is a poor repayment to the veterans of this country and it's past citizens to take a crap all over their legacy.
CharlieDeltaJuliet
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I hope it is the "wake up call" we so desperately need.
Perhaps the country should first start listening to God from whom all blessings flow.
MedWheeler
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Okiegunner writes:
Are those protections only valid each year on the 28th of June?
Are those protections only valid each year on the 28th of June?
meanmrmustard
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Still valid.
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