Ithaca 200e SxS trigger mechanism

[WoodchuckAssassin]

I was curious how the internal triggers operated on these guns. Are they inertia operated (the kick from the first shot resets the trigger for the second shot), or something different? This model comes with a barrel select on the trigger, and I wasn't sure how that changed the internal mechanism.

I have heard horrible things about single trigger SxS, but very good things about this specific single trigger SxS model. I guess the root of my question is...what about THIS single trigger mechanism makes it more reliable than other single trigger SxS shotguns?

 

[clang]

It's been several years since I've owned an Ithaca SKB SxS, but the triggers were always very reliable and the guns were light and handled quite nicely. The problem I had with them was the wood splitting. I think I had 4 of them that had cracks/splits develop while I owned them or I purchased with cracked wood and repaired. Otherwise, they are really great guns.

 

[Virginian]

Some people just like 2 triggers. And there are some SxSs with a history of problems with the single trigger models; i.e. Stoeger for one. But, I have owned several single trigger SxSs with zero issues. If I remember correctly the Ithaca/SKB had an inertia block. As long as it's reasonably clean it will probably be fine.

 

[rcmodel]

I don't know what makes them more reliable.

But I have owned a single trigger 20 ga 280E quail gun since 1970 something.

The single trigger is inertia operated from recoil.
And it has never missed a lick so far.

I guess they just got it right the first time??

rc

 

[oneounceload]

If you look at CSMC's website, some of their higher priced models use the same arrangement. Whether SKB copied it first from the Winchester or Browning or someone else, it is a good design; CSMC also used it for their successful RBL line of SxS guns.

 

[Jim Watson]

A friend has an SKB 200 that has lost its selectivity. It works properly firing right-left but not left-right. Not a problem on flushing birds or cowboy targets.

 

[cpt-t]

I have been shooting a Ithaca 100e SxS in 20 gauge since 1973. I bought it new in Springfield Mo. I have hunted just about any bird you can think of, along with small game. It is one of my favorite Shot Guns, it fit me very well right out of the box. I have shot this gun alot and have never had the slightest problem with it. I am not very mechical but the action and trigger on my gun is just about perfect to me. It is a real shame that Ithaca is not still making them for I always wanted a fancier model.
ken

 

[oneounceload]

It is a real shame that Ithaca is not still making them for I always wanted a fancier model.

Ithaca never made them; SKB in Japan made them FOR Ithaca.

The new ones are being made in Turkey by the same company that made the Kimbers and S&Ws (AKUS) who also makes guns for Webley & Scott and Dickinson. There are four models being made at this time, the 7000SL which is a Holland and Holland pattern, the 200, the 200 HR (high rib) and the 250 (sideplated version). All of the 200 series are identical triggerplate actions mechanically, the differences are mostly cosmetic.
AKDAS, the AKUS subsidiary makes the Century III single barrel trap gun, the IS300 and RS300 inertia semi autos, the 90TSS O/U target gun and the 590 O/U field gun. (AKDAS also makes precision medical equipment)*

*The SKB info came from "Shooting Sportsman" current May/June issue, written by Bruce Buck
His review was of a very nice .410 SxS version.

 

[wgp]

My 200E single trigger has always worked perfectly, as has the barrel selector. It's a wonderful gun.

Actually, I have several two-barrel shotguns, all with single triggers. I think they are all inertia-operated, although I know there are mechanically-operated shotguns out there. In any event, I've never had a single-trigger shotgun fail to re-set the trigger after the first shot.

 

[WoodchuckAssassin]

Great information guys/gals. Thanks.

How difficult would it be to repair a crack in a stock? The one I'm looking at has a hairline crack about an inch long where the stock meets the action. How badly would this affect the guns reliability? Could the stock all of a sudden splinter to hell on me?

 

[oneounceload]

If not properly repaired by someone who knows stocks, it might split on you while firing.

The other option would be to get a new stock and matching forearm made.

 

[Rodman579]

the SKB single triggers inertia reset system is very reliable. i have never seen issues with them unless someone was using a light reload. i tune a ton of them for cowboy action and they are probably the most used higher end shotgun out there for that. i do convert them to mechanical trigger reset for the game of cowboy to make them more reliable as most shooters are using 7/8 loads at 900-950 velocity. but for a hunting gun using heavier loads i would never really see this as an issue.

 

[oneounceload]

the SKB single triggers inertia reset system is very reliable. i have never seen issues with them unless someone was using a light reload.

Or they have a tendency to "trap" the trigger.......