I've come full circle (.22LR)

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My first .22LR rifle was a Marlin Model 25 7 shot bolt-action with the MicroGroove barrel and a cheap Tasco 4x scope, it was a 16th birthday gift from my father, I loved that little gun, I was never happy with the scope, so I ditched it, and used iron sights, I was *deadly* with that thing, I could take the top off a soda bottle with it on my little .22 range out in the field (50 foot range), it saw use every weekend, it went with me to college (yes, we could keep our own firearms on campus, in the security building, just check them out when we went shooting and return them when done), it saw a lot of use, and was always dead-on accurate.

I started getting into handguns for a while, and I dismissed the humble .22LR as "too wussy", I was more interested in thumpers like .357 magnum revolvers and 12-gauge shotguns, you know "real guns".... (ahh to be young and foolish again...... and also a robot....), the Marlin 25 began gathering dust, brought out only when I couldn't afford a box of ammo for the .357 or 12-gauge.

a few years later, I moved up to Vermont to take a job, and in the process, became interested in paintball, money was tight, so I sold the Marlin to fund the purchase of a Tippmann 98 Custom with expansion chamber and 18" "sniper" barrel....

I got bored with paintball after one game, and used the Tippy as a casual splat-plinker, but got bored rapidly with it.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, bad MacTech! shoulda' kept the faithful old Marlin....

a couple years ago, I got back into shooting after a long break, I picked up a used Ruger 10/22 with a Bushnell 3-9X scope, than a little later, a New England Firearms single shot and Bushnell 3-9X, the NEF became my "whisper" gun, set up for short-range plinking and varminting, and the 10/22 was my inexpensive-to-feed range rifle.

The NEF was a great little gun, simple, reliable, acceptable trigger, but the Ruger, well, I never really completely warmed to it, it would randomly fail to completely eject a spent case, only to mash it into the next loading round, happened with both Ruger mags and Butler Creek Hot Lips mags, completely random and unpredictable.

It was decently accurate, but it had a *HORRIBLE* trigger, 8+# if not more before the trigger would release, I had to check to see if the safety was stuck on numerous times, I tried polishing the hammer, which smoothed the pull somewhat, but never really dropped the weight of the pull, I could practically hang the gun off my trigger finger and the trigger would not release (both before and after the hammer job)

I never really warmed to the semiauto action either, it didn't have the tactile feel of a good bolt, and the temptation to go into an ammo-wasting rapidfire (if the horrible trigger would ever allow that) was always there, I grew up on single shots (Ithaca 49) and bolts (Marlin 25), and semiauto .22's just felt...wrong... to me, I enjoy the challenge of making every shot count, and that's the way I shot the 10/22, heck, due to it's craptacular trigger, that's the only choice I really had, as rapidfire with the 10/22 didn't really "group" well, it looked more like a shotgun "pattern", and I'm not one for turning money into noise or wasting lead indiscriminately.

Last weekend, I had had enough, random jams and misfeeds, a horrible, heavy LawyerTrigger, it had the worst trigger pull of any firearm I have tried, I know I could have purchased a third-party trigger group or even a VQ parts kit, but the gun only cost me $150ish used, I had had enough of it.

I took the gun and mags to my gunshop and traded for store credit, picked up a Savage Mark IIG with the AccuTrigger, and had the scope on the 10/22 mounted on the Savage.

As soon as I picked up the Savage Mark IIG, it was like I had come home, it shouldered and pointed well, was nicely balanced, and just felt *right*, it also had very similar lines to the old Marlin 25, and it has three more rounds available in the mag than the old 7 shot Marlin, it felt like I had come back to my old friend.

So, on saturday, I took it to the range, set up my targets at 50 yards, and had the gun dialed in for the most part in 9 rounds, one more mag to fine tune the scope, and I had it dead-on at 50 yards.

Even with crosswinds, the Savage was shooting quite well, nice tight groups, not bad for a new-to-me gun that I'm unfamiliar with, at 50 yards, it looks like it's shooting1/4" to 1/2" groups (each hole is 1/4" away from the other)

And yes, this little Savage is just as much a tackdriver as my old Microgroove Marlin 25, plus, the AccuTrigger is *GREAT*, nice, clean feel, light 2.5# pull, and a crisp break, coming from the bricklike trigger pull of the 10/22, the Savage Mark II feels like a true hair-trigger

I started on a bolt-action .22, and I'm back on a bolt-action again, it feels good to "come home"

I'm pretty sure this is "the one", the right gun for me, the 10/22 was a nice enough gun, but we never really bonded or got along, it was just sort of "there", and that heavy "LawyerTrigger" didn't help matters at all
 
i feel the same with rimfire bolt guns. i built a 10/22 just to try something different. i still shoot my marlin 81 and 917 more. not that they are any more accurate(well, the 917 is) but, because i shoot better when i don't have the temptation of the "if i miss i can make a follow up shot."
 
Coming home is a good thing. Welcome back. I have essentially done the same thing (different rifles, but I do have a Mark II also) except I still shoot my centerfires.
 
You’re not alone; I completed the circle several years ago. As of the last couple of years my rimfire collection has been growing and the centerfires have been sitting in the safe.
 
I've come full circle (.22LR)

You have learned well, grasshoppa. :)

Hey sidebar; you mentioned NEFs. Yesterday I was dry firing my NEF Handi in .243. Get this. Just from dry-firing, out of the blue, the top tip of the hammer, along with the hammer extension, just simply breaks off and flies across the room as I let the hammer go with the trigger. I haven't seen metal this weak since some Millett rings broke on me. :mad:
 
haven't seen metal this weak since some Millett rings broke on me.

It isn't that the metal is necessarily weak... if the hammer standoff, or the entire hammer was any softer then you would start getting deformation of the part.

We have seen several of these hammers, of type, fail as yours did, but never on a NEF. Guess it can happen to any manufacturer, they all probably get the hammer from the same place anyway...lol hehehe:p

I'm sure that NEF will make it right.:D

Hey, ever hear of a... snap cap.... just kidding:neener:

PS: are you saying the hammer spur came off, if so... bad, bad. And a snap cap won't stop that from happening, i wasn't being a ... well you know....



:D
 
the savage stocks, as you know are pretty bad; so no harm if you wanna channel out the forearmstock even more. Also, you can get some aluminum tape, and put a few layers in the front/side/bottom of the receiver area, just to tighten it up a bit more. lastly, you can make your accutrigger a bit lighter if you like, there is a thread or sticky over on rimfirecentral.com showing how to do it...
 
A good bolt gun is probably perfect, especially for a hunter. Mine is a Kimber M82 that I've for more than 25 years, and I've killed a boxcar load of squirrels with it.

And I agree with you -- I don't see the attraction of a semiautomatic, except for burning ammo. And these days, that can get expensive.
 
U.M., well it WAS a "snap cap", in the sense that when I "capped" the imaginary round by dry firing, the hammer "snapped" off! :) Yes, the top 3/16" or so of the hammer just simply broke off and with the hammer extension attached flew across the room. :eek:

The funny part about it though, is that since NEFs have this silly (unnecessary) upward angling hammer (unlike the Rossi, T/C, etc.), I took advantage of the opportunity, dremeled it off square and smooth, and swapped out rings to place my scope down lower! :) Now I just hope with the lighter weight, it will have enough momentum to fire (I think it will). Also, it's a real bear to manually cock the hammer now in that tight space under the scope's ocular bell without an extension - takes two thumbs and not for the novice shooter! [Interestingly, however, the NEF CAN actually be cocked with the action open, THEN closed, THEN fired!]
 
I too had a Marlin when I was younger. It was a Model 60 with wood stock. I paid $65 for it back in 1987. Very accurate rifle.

I sold it as I needed some money. Stupid move.

I now own a Ruger 10/22 and love it.
 
So, on saturday, I took it to the range, set up my targets at 50 yards, and had the gun dialed in for the most part in 9 rounds, one more mag to fine tune the scope, and I had it dead-on at 50 yards.

Is anyone here familiar with the theory of one-shot scope-zeroing?
 
I shot three three-shot groups, the first grouping to see where the boresighted gun shot, second group of three to adjust the vertical, third group to adjust the horizontal, then another mag of ten to fine-tune the settings, after that, it was pretty much dead-on
 
The Savage rimfire bolt guns are great rifles, commonly overlooked on gunboards. I own two pre-AccuTrigger models -- a Mark IIGL and a 93GL ("L" = left handed). Both are tackdrivers.
 
Is anyone here familiar with the theory of one-shot scope-zeroing?
Yup, but it's easier with some setups than with others.

Basically, you fire a single shot. Then hold the rifle and scope on the aiming point and without moving the rifle, dial the scope until the crosshairs intersect the bullet hole. Of course, you have to hold the rifle absolutely still while you do this.
 
Basically, you fire a single shot. Then hold the rifle and scope on the aiming point and without moving the rifle, dial the scope until the crosshairs intersect the bullet hole. Of course, you have to hold the rifle absolutely still while you do this.
Yes, it's best to have the rifle clamped down in a shooting rest while you adjust the crosshairs.
 
Welcome home! I too went full circle and came back a couple of years ago. I started with a Winchester 75 and thought it was a little kids rifle. I went through the recoil and a muzzle blast is more cool faze. And I went through the spray as much lead downrange as possible faze too. I came back home with the Kimber Hunter.
 
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I'm not sure what kind of 22 I started with. When I was a kid I never had one. We lived in a "shotgun only" county so I started with shotguns and stayed there for a long time.

Now I've got a dozen or so 22's, half of them being semi-auto's, mostly 10/22's. But my favorite is a Ruger 77/22. That rifle just looks and feels right to me.
 
I started out with 22 rf in both rifles and handguns. Later on went to centerfire in a wide variety of calibers and shot them for years. Several years ago I realized that I've become a old coot and started selling off a 60 year collection. Now down to one 45 cal revolver, one 9mm pistol, a Arsenal SA M7, a 223 bolt several near mint 6.5 Swedes and a dozen or so 22 rifles. Rejoiced when all the Rugers went down the road. Never developed much of a feeling for them. The 22's did not see a lot of use for many years but now they really get worked out.
 
There's going to be a gun show there this weekend I think. I might try to drive up there for that but I've spent too much on gun stuff lately. I think the boss will probably balk at that.

Walter that show is just down the street from me and I will be there just looking around. If I find some standard velocity 22 ammo at a decent price I may pick some up. As always keep an eye open for another nice .22 rifle.
 
You’re not alone; I completed the circle several years ago. As of the last couple of years my rimfire collection has been growing and the centerfires have been sitting in the safe.

Yep........me too. :cool:
 
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