IWB Holster for J-Frame: 1 vs 2 clips and Thumb-break?

Status
Not open for further replies.

Aux

Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2003
Messages
9
I am looking at several of the tuckable holsters available for a S&W 638. The 638 is small & light (Airframe), but I am unsure if having a holster with 2 clips on the ends will be more stable/comfortable/subtle than 1 clip over the center. Opinions?

I am also used to holsters (OWB) with thumb-break straps over the hammer (for my Sigs - this is my first wheelgun). The shrouded hammer J-Frame is a very different animal, but I might still want a holster with the strap. They do not seem very common. Is having the strap a good or pointless addition to the holster for this type of gun?
 
With IWB, you've got a LOT of extra retention going on with the belt across either the cylinder or the area just above it. In my opinion, a thumbreak is NOT needed.

Two clips or one? Depends. I recommend against any design that puts one clip "dead center" at the area of the cylinder. Basically, you end up with too much stuff "piled up at that high point" and comfort suffers.

With a 3" or 4" barrel, a single clip at around the triggerguard area or a bit behind can work, where the gun doesn't want to roll forward because the topstrap area encounters enough upper belt edge/pants lip tension to stay upright. With 5" 1911s or similar sized autos this works great because of the gun shape.

With a low-slung little snubby, esp. a hammerless model, a one-clip design of that type might allow it to roll forward. Ditto any very heavy gun - by the time you hit SP101 weight levels (26oz) I think you need two clips, one fore and one aft as shown below. With GP100s, L-frames, N-frames or bigger, you definately need two clips.

A lot depends on where you're mounting it, and your physical size. In other words, on a great big guy like me with a 48" belt (hey, it WAS 50, it's dropping!) and kidney carry, there's damned little tension across the topstrap and a one-rear-clip type might "roll". On a smaller guy, the belt will be doing a more pronounced curve at the topstrap and hold it up; ditto if the big guy shifts it to directly on the side carry versus back closer to the small of the back (but NEVER on the spine).

Double clips eliminate the roll. On a bigger gun, that means a fairly wide rig. Tucker solves this by mounting all the kydex to a flat piece of leather, which then curves around the body. My personal all-kydex equivelent is to hand-curve the carry rig to the body of the owner - on a big guy, dead flat can work but on a smaller dude, more curve needed.

This thing was a CHALLENGE:

005627.JPG


That's a seriously cut-down 454 SRH in a double-clip IWB rig I built for Joe. Clips are wider than I usually do, and are "twisted outwards" so that the belt is guided around the gun in a less abrupt fashion than flat clips would have done. The forward clip is free-swivelling so that the rig "flexes" as you sit and stand - so far as I'm aware, I'm the only one doing that. My clips are .090" grade kydex, while the main body is .060" - relatively thin, but the overal comfort is there. Also, I do a single-side mold - if this was flipped over, you'd see it's basically flat where it contacts your body, versus "jutting in". Only myself and Tucker do that as far as I know.
 
IWB

I used to like thumb breaks on all my holsters, including IWB. I eventually bought a Wild Bill's Covert Carry, with a shield added, and am completely satisfied with it. The belt clip is to the rear of the cylinder & this reduces the width. The shield is a piece of leather that provides a little extra protection between the gun and your skin. Various cants can be ordered.

Cost was $75.00 & the wait time was 3 1/2 months, although I had been told it would be 6 to 8 weeks.

Check this site:

http://www.wildbillsconcealment.com/waist.html

John
 
What was it about this holster that made you forgo the desire for a thumb-break? I am looking at that same holster myself.
 
IWB

Aux,

I've been using IWB for 40 + years and have tried all sorts of IWB, even going to the extent of modifying some by hand. When I heard about the Covert Carry, I searched a number of sites and found nothing negative about it.

The location of the clip is nearly perfect and it can be used with the shirt tucked in, although I don't use it that way. In fact, I glued & sewed the leather around the clip to the holster body to make it a little more secure since I always wear a shirt outside my pants.

The photo on the web site does not show the shield but it is worth the extra cost as it protects the finish of the gun.

IMHO, the thumb break is not necessary as the waistband and/or belt keep the gun in place,

John
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top